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Ryan Tannehill 2012 NFL Draft Scouting Report


The 2012 NFL draft is desperate for quarterbacks after the decisions by Matt Barkley and Landry Jones to return to college for their senior seasons. Will Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M fill that gap in the first round?
Many are ready to elevate Tannehill to the first round based on this need at the position, but does his play actually warrant a first-round selection?

AGILITY: 8.5

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A former wide receiver, Tannehill brings athleticism to the position that few quarterbacks possess. This can be a positive and a negative, though.
Tannehill does have quick feet, which will aid in him making the transition to a drop-back quarterback once in the NFL, but he’s also relying too often on his athleticism instead of his mechanics.


Tannehill will see comparisons to Tim Tebow as he’s an able runner who made big plays as a designed runner in the Aggies’ offense.

ACCURACY: 6.0

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Tannehill is able to accurately deliver the football on intermediate, crossing and short routes to the flats. He throws a very catchable pass that has good placement with the receiver running both left and right. What I didn’t see, at all, was deep accuracy.


Tannehill doesn’t push the ball upfield often, and when he did the ball was underthrown with poor accuracy leading the receiver to the boundary. This will be an area that is scrutinized when scouts can dictate which throws Tannehill is making.

ARM STRENGTH: 6.5

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Tannehill showed good arm strength—better than I expected. He’s able to get the ball to the sideline from midfield, but he’s also not throwing the ball deep often at all. While we didn’t see the deep ball, Tannehill’s velocity is good. The ball pops out with good spin and nice trajectory.


Tannehill will need a full work-up at the Senior Bowl to see just how strong his arm is vertically. There is a delayed hitch in his motion (shown below) that if cleaned up could improve his arm strength down field.

DECISION MAKING: 5.5
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Overall: Check down. Check down. Check down. Sideline into coverage.
This is commonplace in the A&M offense. Only Landry Jones threw more checkdowns in a three-game charting this season. Tannehill doesn’t look deep, he’s not asked to make reads and he’s not ready to step up to the line in the NFL and decipher where to put the football.
Anyone expecting this player to be a rookie starter needs to take a long look at what he actually does in this offense.

FIELD VISION: 5.5

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In three games I saw Tannehill check off the No. 1 read five times. He comes out of center, looks at the free safety, finds his read and throws the ball. The A&M offense may be asking him to make one read (free safety) and deliver the ball from where he’s lining up, and if so this is a very remedial offense.


Tannehill will need work—as most young quarterbacks do—at reading the defense. Unlike other quarterbacks in this class, Tannehill has half the time devoted to the position that they do. His learning curve will be high.

MECHANICS: 6.5

You will hear mention many times to the fact that Tannehill formerly played wide receiver. Many people mention this as a positive, but to me it’s a current problem. Tannehill has just 1.5 seasons as a quarterback under his belt, and his mechanics show this.
Tannehill has a wasted motion in his throw, which I’ll break down here.

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See how his elbow is dropped down below his breast-line in this image? That’s not where you want an elbow or the angle you want a shoulder at for throwing a football.

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Same play, this is the next motion from Tannehill. He’s dropping his elbow and then bringing it back up. This causes not only a delay that NFL cornerbacks will jump on, but added stress on the shoulder. This has to be fixed quickly in the NFL.


POCKET PRESENCE: 7.0

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When you hear a mobile quarterback you automatically think someone who will tuck and run at the first sign of trouble, but that’s not the case with Tannehill. He stands tall in the pocket and moves his feet very well coming out of center and shotgun sets.


He isn’t pressured much as A&M moves him around on designed waggles and bootlegs. Through three games I found very little evidence of him handling pressure in his face. This play was encouraging because Tannehill felt the pressure bending around him and made a good move to step up in the pocket and give himself a run-pass opportunity. This is what scouts will need to see.

OVERALL: 6.5

Tannehill doesn’t live up to the hype some are handing him on my report. I see him more as a late second-rounder who could move up with a great showing at the Senior Bowl and NFL Scouting Combine.
Tannehill does many things well, but he doesn’t do any one thing perfect and is more a product of the system and routes around him than anything else. In three games I didn’t see Tannehill break outside the system to make a play. He makes his predetermined reads and executes. This isn’t a bad thing, necessarily, but NFL coaches want players who can think for themselves on the field.

NFL Comparison: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills

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Tannehill will utlimately grade out as more athletic than Fitzpatrick, but the two are very similar. Both work in an offense built on timing and zone routes, and they do well in this system. Neither player has great arm strength, but gets by with catchable passes and an ability to execute under pressure.
Like Fitzpatrick, Tannehill will need time to develop into an NFL starter and will need exceptional talent around him at wide receiver. If his receivers cannot get open and sit down in zones, Tannehill is not the type of quarterback to throw his receivers open or push the ball vertically.

http://draftace.com/blog/2012/02/20/breaking-down-tannehill-vs-arkansas/
http://draftace.com/blog/2012/02/20/former-nfl-qb-tony-banks-shares-thoughts-on-tannehill/
http://draftace.com/blog/2012/02/19/in-depth-look-at-tannehill-vs-lsu/

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Mike Sherman says he is a lot more athletic then people realize and he is a sponge. He admits he is still a bit raw and needs work before he can compete at the next level. He says Tannehill could be a franchise QB.

He believes he has a high ceiling but admits that RGIII is rightfully rated much higher as a prospect. He says RGIII will make an easy transition to the pro style offense.
 
I like this kid...a few here who hate him....I think he's perfect Qb for us . Tannehill has played in Sherman's offense WC for two years (Holmgren's OC in GB)... same verbage, same offense...he could step in...IMO

I wouldn't be surprised if we took him at 4...heard it hear first.

Tanny , Burfict #22 or K Wright 2nd round -Mark Barron S bama, 3rd nick toon or Broyles

I swear if heckert moves up for anyone other than luck...I'll drive up from TX and egg his house!
 
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I haven't seen much of him except for some highlights and those don't really tell the story. He played WR his Soph year. He may have the tools but they aren't totally developed and Sherman says so.

Scouts say he needs to improve his decision making and he just needs to get more experience being a QB. They do project him to be a franchise QB, just not right now.
 
I like this kid...a few here who hate him....I think he's perfect Qb for us . Tannehill has played in Sherman's offense WC for two years (Holmgren's OC in GB)... same verbage, same offense...he could step in...IMO

I wouldn't be surprised if we took him at 4...heard it hear first.

Tanny , Burfict #22 or K Wright 2nd round -Mark Barron S bama, 3rd nick toon or Broyles

I swear if heckert moves up for anyone other than luck...I'll drive up from TX and egg his house!

Who is going to teach Tannehill to become a franchise QB?

IMO, We don't have need for a 'project QB' at #4.

Maybe in ROUND 4.
 
Tannehill may be better then them but I think if we pick him at #4 I might go ballistic. Sorry but IMO, he's exactly the same as McCoy... pure project. You don't take a pure project at #4. If he does go in the first it will be because of what happens to QB's... they get reached for more than any position in the draft.
 
Nobody is talking about Tannehill at #4. He's a mid to late first round pick and I don't think we should use either of our premium picks on a developmental QB.

Sorry, but I don't see anywhere where anyone even hinted at taking Tannehill at #4. We were talking about his potential and scouting report not if we should draft him or when.

This team needs impact players #4 and #22 that can come in and start from day one.
 
Tannehill may be better then them but I think if we pick him at #4 I might go ballistic. Sorry but IMO, he's exactly the same as McCoy... pure project. You don't take a pure project at #4. If he does go in the first it will be because of what happens to QB's... they get reached for more than any position in the draft.

Not saying we shyould at all...saying I won't be surprised if we do.
 
Nobody is talking about Tannehill at #4. He's a mid to late first round pick and I don't think we should use either of our premium picks on a developmental QB.

Sorry, but I don't see anywhere where anyone even hinted at taking Tannehill at #4. We were talking about his potential and scouting report not if we should draft him or when.

This team needs impact players #4 and #22 that can come in and start from day one.

Not saying we shyould at all...saying I won't be surprised if we do.

Ah ok, my bad. I misunderstood the postings. Sorry bout that!
 
Nobody is talking about Tannehill at #4. He's a mid to late first round pick and I don't think we should use either of our premium picks on a developmental QB.

Sorry, but I don't see anywhere where anyone even hinted at taking Tannehill at #4. We were talking about his potential and scouting report not if we should draft him or when.

This team needs impact players #4 and #22 that can come in and start from day one.

Hey...I am not saying we should...saying wont be surprised if we do...as to the rest ... you have seen(here),me! And watch...it happens every year...QB ALWAYS move move move up the Draft boards. I dont give a rats ass if anyone else was...I was / am!
3 months away...as we get closer you will start hearing about it...If there is a fit out there (other than luck) he's it! he won't make it out of top 15....here first as well :)
 
Nobody wants Tannehil at the 4 spot because he's to big of a project but everybody's ok with RG3 there? RG3's 10x's the project, I'd take Tannehil everyday of the week over him. Not at 4 though, there's only one QB in the draft worth a top ten pick and we all know who that is.
 
I respectfully disagree. Tannehill isn't a "project." He's just not very good. Call it what you want, limited upside, low ceiling, the dreaded 'system quarterback'. He's just a guy. And you don't use first round draft picks on "guys."

Tannehill's got serious limitations with his arm and pace. He's a good athlete, but he's sluggish in the pocket. The time he takes from decision to delivery, including that hitchy throwing motion, makes for a long uphill climb in the NFL. He's going to get the ball knocked out, knocked down, and picked off at the next level. He's just too deliberate.

He also has a tendency to lose his fundamentals when he's moving. He throws open (without turning his hips) when he's going left, and throws across his body moving to his right.

He's a smart kid, and a better athlete then most of his contemporaries at the position. But you're looking at a career back-up unless something changes dramatically. Best choice... he's a mid-2nd to 3rd. But he'll go unnaturally high due to a shallow quarterback class.

Without respect to need, I've got a 4th round grade on him... but, in the NFL quarterback lust is worth about a round and a half. And the rookie wage scale makes it more palatable than it has been. But, he'd be over-drafted in the 3rd... much less the first or second.

And I'll argue that there are two quarterbacks deserving to be the top 10... actually there are two worthy of the #1 overall. And I'm not sure how you figure that RGIII is a "project." That kid improves 25 NFL teams tomorrow, if you throw him in the lineup.

-jj
 
I have to agree there are only 2 QBs for us where we will draft first. We will either have one or none of those on our doorstep when we pick. That doesn't mean we go after Tannehill at #4 IMO. I don't see 1 shred of evidence where he could beat out McCoy.

In the event that the 2 top QBs go earlier than our pick, Brandon Weeden might not be bad in round 2:
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Okay, I understand his age is 28. BUT, that might mean the same positives as Kurt Warner's mature age of 28 during his NFL coming out party in St Louis. We just won't have Marshall Faulk, Torry Holt, Az Zahir Hakeem and Ike Bruce waiting to make life wonderful for him just yet. Then again, keeping both our 1st round picks could put a couple gridiron chess pieces in place he could attack opponents with.

My biggest worries were about the Big 12 QBs producing a TON of false positives coming out of that conference where their games never translated to the NFL level. HOWEVER, this is where I REALLY enjoyed and appreciated Jason J's insights about RGIII as well as Gabe's videos to confirm specific points about him. You don't judge a kid by the conference he plays in or you won't DESERVE a kid with such a unique skill-set. You HAVE to watch this kid and see if he has the mind, leadership and talent that is transferable.

BOTH Luck and RGIII transcended forgettable college football programs into very memorable ones. That's exactly what we'll be asking of whoever we draft at QB so it's nice to know that is on the resume. Having said that, Brandon Weeden pretty much put Oklahoma State on a level we have never seen them at before. They're always good but I think he made them great/elite. I bring him up because BOTH RGIII and Luck could be gone before we pick; and we could probably land him in round 2 or with trade-back scenarios. Case Keenum isn't a bad consideration for round 2 or 3 either.
 
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What's scariest about Tannehill is that instead of improving as the season went along, he actually seemed to regress. Matched up against tougher defenses, he more often threw blind into coverage and got himself in trouble. As a result, his three worst passer ratings of the season came in his final five games. He was brutally awful vs Texas.
 
Without respect to need, I've got a 4th round grade on him... but, in the NFL quarterback lust is worth about a round and a half. And the rookie wage scale makes it more palatable than it has been. But, he'd be over-drafted in the 3rd... much less the first or second.
-jj

Which means someone will take him in the first. Worse, they'll trade UP (hopefully with us) get him. :)
 
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