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Let say if there is a lock out and could this means

we will play NFL 2012 season with new draft choice from 2011 and 2012 ? So potentially there will be a dozen college boys joining every team. am I right or wrong.
 
Legendary said:
Let say if there is a lock out and could this means

we will play NFL 2012 season with new draft choice from 2011 and 2012 ? So potentially there will be a dozen college boys joining every team. am I right or wrong.
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I couldn't see the whole season wiped out with no CBA. I'd think at some point there just is too much money for either party to lose if they stay out. So, I could see a shortened season or limited preseason and training camp which would be the worst thing for teams like us with new coaching staffs and new systems to put in place.

In that case, 2012 draft would go by season record as usual.

Another big problem for us is that if there is a lock out and it's lengthy then there won't be any trades or FA. Kind of sucks when you are looking for players to fit a new defense and you are stuck with square pegs.
 
Enigmatic Evil said:
See I am in the camp that believes that Mangini lost his job for a reason. I will not refute that he did an excellent job of turning this team around. Taking the carnage that was the locker room that he inherited and really turned it into something he could call his own. He won the players over and they played hard for him.
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If he really won the players over and if they really played hard for him...They wouldnt have a piss poor record and EM would still be here...Im not buying it.
 
Look, I feel like this is played out, but let's agree on this: Mangini's a football guy and he'd tell you that NFL success is measured in a consistent and simple way: wins and losses. The bottom line is the bottom line.

And going from 5-11 ending with a 4-game winning streak to 5-11 ending with a 4-game losing streak isn't progress, no matter how much lipstick you put on that pig, like changes in culture or being less hated than before or whatever. It's at best stagnant.
 
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