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I just can't get past the fact that Haslam is putting in billions, and it's his team like it or not, and people are complaining about it.

Modell moved the team because he was poor. Jimmy is fighting to keep the team here, and it's totally tone deaf to think the current stadium is going to sit well with any well-off owner.

Sure, I'd love the exact BP layout on the lake with a nice pedestrian bridge to downtown and a fully rerouted highway system to improve egress.

I mean, the muni lot is beloved, but in the end, it's a weird little parking lot the fans have made the most of.

The estimates are north of 5 billion to do all of that. So, for those who think that should happen, where is that money to come from?

Downtown Cleveland needs so much more. Why throw the money at the Browns? For the city, it's a lot to spend in the wrong direction, and for the Browns, it's an insultingly low amount below what they need to get it going.

I dunno. I'm pro BP.
 
OconRecon said:
I just can't get past the fact that Haslam is putting in billions, and it's his team like it or not, and people are complaining about it.

Modell moved the team because he was poor. Jimmy is fighting to keep the team here, and it's totally tone deaf to think the current stadium is going to sit well with any well-off owner.

Sure, I'd love the exact BP layout on the lake with a nice pedestrian bridge to downtown and a fully rerouted highway system to improve egress.

I mean, the muni lot is beloved, but in the end, it's a weird little parking lot the fans have made the most of.

The estimates are north of 5 billion to do all of that. So, for those who think that should happen, where is that money to come from?

Downtown Cleveland needs so much more. Why throw the money at the Browns? For the city, it's a lot to spend in the wrong direction, and for the Browns, it's an insultingly low amount below what they need to get it going.

I dunno. I'm pro BP.
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Good luck selling PSL's then... because both my Brother and Brother in law are giving up their seat licenses.. They are already ungodly expensive.. Even the Middle class can't afford it anymore... Fuck Brook Park...
 
No PSL's for me either.
I pick a game to go to and maybe two. I try to get the best seats I can and the rest I watch on TV.
The price for good seats to one game is about the same as flying into Florida for a weekend in December and if the Browns suck then what am I doing?
 
I think the deal with taxes is there will be no new taxes. There will be a tax on stuff when you go, but that's your choice.
There are no new income, property, or off-site sales taxes.
 
The more I read about this deal and the payback from the Haslams and what an absolute sleeze bag Bibb is I’m 💯onboard with the Browns and Brookpark.

I’m sure corruption will be involved in any city but you can’t trust any Cleveland politician.

What a cesspool. Bibb is a complete fool and so far out of his league it’s pathetic. Like all politicians, be sure of one thing.

They couldn’t care less about us. It’s about power and money.

At least the Haslams are going to build something that I think is pretty damn cool if it can come close to the renderings.
 
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OconRecon said:
I was paying thousands a year to be on the 8 yard line in the upper deck, 13 rows from the top. F that.
Now my son and I do one game, and do the club level. Wayyyy cheaper than an entire season, and a much better experience.
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Damn right. I go to some game from SC every couple of years and get club level between the 30 yd lines. Been to CLE, ATL, CHAR and Metlife/NYC stadiums. Usually around $300-$500 on secondary markets and then get to visit those cities for a day or so. Fits me and the wife to a T.
 
hammertime said:
And now to hear Bibb tell outright lies is truly pathetic.

People with any common sense are gonna see straight through Cleveland’s BS tactics and lack of credibility.
It’s a shame for 30 years Cleveland has done zero on the lakefront.
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I've found most who opinionate on how it should all stay on the lakefront haven't read a thing, or followed along, on the financial particulars.

I would love to snap my fingers, have an awesome land bridge from downtown, reroute the highway to improve egress, and plop that Brook Park plan right on the lakefront. But the estimates to do all of that are north of 5 billion. It's just undoable in so may ways.
 
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