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The Haymaker said:
he just got us a FQB an you guys are still whining,bitching,complaining and assuming the very worst.
he just put his reputation and his $$ on the line for the CB.when we win the SB you guys will still be "yeah but.whah whah whah."
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Yep All Browns fans will never be happy ever. I love talent and thats why I love Deshaun Watson. Guy is a flat out beast. Most of the fan base loves scrappy scrubs like Mayfield, yet those were the same dopes cursing Mayfield when he planted the flag down at Suckeye State. They love scrappy scrubs because it reminds them of their loser selves and their failed sports careers at the age of 12 when Little League became too tough for them.

Watson will get the Browns to the Super Bowl. The only Super Bowl Mayfield is getting to is buying a ticket
 
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The best part about Watson and Trading for Cooper is they now have 2 winners with a winning mentality. They know what it takes to win Championships. Yes They were both College National Champions on the highest level of football besides the NFL. That mindset and knowing what it takes can translate into the NFL and Life in general. That winning attitude will impact the rest of the team. Nothing but bright days ahead for the Browns. 1 move and decision can change a franchise forever and the Browns just made that decision
 
Ugh, the get a new owner. How has that worked out for the Browns, or pretty much any other team? Like it or not pro sports franchises are a tax right off and expensive toy for billionaires. All you can hope for is the owner puts the right people in charge, let's them do their job, and opens their wallet
 
Masters said:
Ugh, the get a new owner. How has that worked out for the Browns, or pretty much any other team? Like it or not pro sports franchises are a tax right off and expensive toy for billionaires. All you can hope for is the owner puts the right people in charge, let's them do their job, and opens their wallet
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And to this point.. Haslam has... FAILED!
 
Masters said:
Ugh, the get a new owner. How has that worked out for the Browns, or pretty much any other team? Like it or not pro sports franchises are a tax right off and expensive toy for billionaires. All you can hope for is the owner puts the right people in charge, let's them do their job, and opens their wallet
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BULLSHIT!!

Look what the Dolans have done to the Indians and the NY Nicks! They manage every penny and in doing so their franchises are hamstrung.
If these assholes can't run a team for fear of cost. G.T.F.O.!!!!
 
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jaydog said:
BULLSHIT!!

Look what the Dolans have done to the Indians and the NY Nicks! They manage every penny and in doing so their franchises are hamstrung.
If these assholes can't run a team for fear of cost. G.T.F.O.!!!!
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Not sure I follow how that is BS. You gave the somewhat examples of owners who don't meet what I said you hope would open their wallets. With the Knicks that Dolan fits the owner who doesn't put right people in charge, doesn't get out of the way, and worse of all is an example of a billion air that treats his team as his toy. Dude is more worried about perception than results. Especially if critical of him. Knicks do spend, but on bad asset choices.

For the Indians Dolan they have spent, when they could. Baseball ecomnics are not the same as NFL or MLB. Small market MLB teams struggle financially. They simply can't spend like other teams
 
nickers said:
And to this point.. Haslam has... FAILED!
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Has he? The Browns have been more competitive, future is looking bright, stadium got renovated, revamped the Berea offices and training facility, found his way to jerseys everyone loves, got a bunch of nationally recognised players, and the overall Browns brand is better than it was in the years prior.

On top of that, he's been very active with the team (Unlike the absentee Lerner), very active with fundraising in the community and shown a clear desire to learn from his mistakes.

It hasn't been perfect, plenty of missteps, but I don't get the Haslam hate. He didn't move the Browns, change the Browns for the worse, put a dome on the stadium, didn't try to modernise the franchise. All the shit people hated or were fearful of.

The hate Haslam gets is nuts. He's doing an excellent job.
 
madmadworld said:
If you look this over you'll find the tribe was drawing over 3 mil a year before the Dolan's.
there Were that many interested fans. some might if past on by now. but winning is important duh

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Yep had a 20 game plan from 95-00 I think. Once Dolan was quoted in Crains Business Weekly that he was going to run the franchise like a business and winning a World Series was in a perfect world goal, that told me all I needed to know, canceled my tickets and I have only been to 2 games since and that was to watch my Dodgers when they were in Town. Such a shame great place to watch a game but their antics are embarassing. 455 straight sellouts pre-Dolan
 
BDU said:
Has he? The Browns have been more competitive, future is looking bright, stadium got renovated, revamped the Berea offices and training facility, found his way to jerseys everyone loves, got a bunch of nationally recognised players, and the overall Browns brand is better than it was in the years prior.

On top of that, he's been very active with the team (Unlike the absentee Lerner), very active with fundraising in the community and shown a clear desire to learn from his mistakes.

It hasn't been perfect, plenty of missteps, but I don't get the Haslam hate. He didn't move the Browns, change the Browns for the worse, put a dome on the stadium, didn't try to modernise the franchise. All the shit people hated or were fearful of.

The hate Haslam gets is nuts. He's doing an excellent job.
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Atta baby BDU.

There's is easily and pile of owners I'd rather not have vs the Haslams

Cowboys - Jerruh is the GM
Jags - hired Urbs with almost zero research
Bengals - as an agent said "they do with 3 people, what everyone else does with 24 (in the FO)"
Raiders - moved the team
Chargers - moved the team
Texans - racist POS's
Ravens - bitching about our money (btw, Haslams spend where the Dolans don't)
Colts - drunk owner
Commanders - Snyder in the news again yesterday
Bears - cute story, but she's like 110 years old

etc etc etc

Again, Haslam isn't perfect or flawless, but he's a heckuva sugar daddy for The Land, and if he gets his lakefront retractable dome (and after fighting the Cleveland weather problem with Watson, I believe a retractable dome is on the table), it's gonna be glorious.

 
OconRecon said:
Atta baby BDU.

There's is easily and pile of owners I'd rather not have vs the Haslams

Cowboys - Jerruh is the GM
Jags - hired Urbs with almost zero research
Bengals - as an agent said "they do with 3 people, what everyone else does with 24 (in the FO)"
Raiders - moved the team
Chargers - moved the team
Texans - racist POS's
Ravens - bitching about our money (btw, Haslams spend where the Dolans don't)
Colts - drunk owner
Commanders - Snyder in the news again yesterday
Bears - cute story, but she's like 110 years old

etc etc etc

Again, Haslam isn't perfect or flawless, but he's a heckuva sugar daddy for The Land, and if he gets his lakefront retractable dome (and after fighting the Cleveland weather problem with Watson, I believe a retractable dome is on the table), it's gonna be glorious.

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Yeah i was against the Dome idea when they came back, but in hindsight, they should have went that route. Can attract and use the facility for all different types of events more throughout the year. Maybe get a Final Four, NCAA Regionals.
 
madmadworld said:
If you look this over you'll find the tribe was drawing over 3 mil a year before the Dolan's.
there Were that many interested fans. some might if past on by now. but winning is important duh

www.baseball-reference.com

Cleveland Guardians Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors | Baseball-Reference.com

Cleveland Guardians Attendance, Stadiums, and Park Factors
www.baseball-reference.com www.baseball-reference.com
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For small market it goes both ways. As soon as they are not winning and drawing like that they can't afford the payroll like they are drawing that many
 
this fu*king guy takes his own plane and goes and sells the browns franchise himself to our 1st FQB since kosar.
when you're a kalbillionaire like haslem all you care about is your reputation.you tell me this guy doesnt want to win?
he just put his balls in a vice for this team to win a SB and I respect that dedication from a guy who has everything.
the browns are better now than ever before in recent history and are poised to make a serious run.Im excited AF.
as browns fans? you should be too.
 
OconRecon said:
Me too, but I've now been to Lucas Oil with the roof open and also with the roof closed. I strongly prefer open, as it feels like a normal football game, but the closed roof for Midwestern weather was darn handy.
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A retractable dome would be the route to go so we can close it during some of the shitty weather and negotiate the terrible wind off the lake.
 
Masters said:
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Not sure I follow how that is BS. You gave the somewhat examples of owners who don't meet what I said you hope would open their wallets. With the Knicks that Dolan fits the owner who doesn't put right people in charge, doesn't get out of the way, and worse of all is an example of a billion air that treats his team as his toy. Dude is more worried about perception than results. Especially if critical of him. Knicks do spend, but on bad asset choices.

For the Indians Dolan they have spent, when they could. Baseball ecomnics are not the same as NFL or MLB. Small market MLB teams struggle financially. They simply can't spend like other teams
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Owners should have enough money to compete with any and all other owners. If they can't afford the highest salaries in their sport, at least for a few years in a row then don't bother. You will struggle and fall short.
 
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