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The #1 pick is in -- Myles Garrett

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PhilKosar said:
Not sure I would agree with your assessment of the WRs, RBs, etc.

I did say cockpit:
Philly had a top 10 OL: (PFF) https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season
8. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (7)
Top overall grade: LT Jason Peters, 88.3 (No. 7)

Top pass-blocking grade: LT Jason Peters, 89.1 (No. 6)

Top run-blocking grade: RT Lane Johnson, 86.7 (No. 6)

"The Eagles line would have been far higher on this list if RT Lane Johnson could avoid getting himself suspended. Johnson is arguably the game’s best right tackle, but was suspended for 10 games, forcing the team to use fifth round rookie Halapoulivaati Vaitai, Allen Barbre and then Matt Tobin at right tackle as injuries prevented a settled unit. New import Brandon Brooks was excellent in his first season with the Eagles, allowing just one sack all season at guard and narrowly missing out on a spot on the PFF All-Pro team. Between injury and suspension, the Eagles were disrupted pretty significantly up front, and this unit has the potential to be better than they showed overall this year."


And noticeably he regressed when he lost his RT for a 10 game suspension. Considering our WRs regressed to TP and no one else through most of the season and a running game that was abandoned, I would say Wentz would not have "developed" well unless you are referring to concussions?
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the browns were 16 on that list so that is more then adequate to develop. the problem with your argument is cody kessler who started most of the games was second to last in time to throw held on the ball for too long thats why he was injured. while wentz was middle of the pack in the NFL in time to throw.
 
EastSideDawg said:
no he carried the offence in philly with arguably worse talent then the browns. jordan matthews who they just traded and nelson agholor? and whoever their RB's are idk if any are even back with the team this year they have sproles and blunt now.

i would argue pryor, coleman, crowell and duke are better then anyone they had.

he is a stud ..did you see his first preseason game ? not that im really into preseason but he shrugged off unblocked clay matthews and threw a TD that looked like a young big ben it made me sick knowing we could have had him.
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Teams go as they're QB goes.. that has never changed...
 
EastSideDawg said:
ok im pretty sure right now browns fans wouldnt know a good qb in the making if it punched them in the face.

all those players are great but the price for a top -10 QB which he will be this year is more expensive and harder to attain then what we got. they are basically untradeable

lets keep an ongoing tally this isnt going to be pretty.

wentz- 7 wins

browns- 1 win
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How many have we had since 99? I'm pretty sure Browns fans know the difference........
 
Good luck with the idea that Wentz will be a top 10 QB this year. His regression as his rookies season went on projects otherwise. My bet is he is another Blake Bortles.
 
Brownsfan said:
Interesting use of the word "caution." Yes, we need be cautious because everything is right with the world. The cream always rises to the top. There are no bad coaches in the NFL. And there is no need to worry about developing a quarterback because he either has it or he doesn't. And switching offenses every year or so should be a breeze for a quarterback so why worry about continuity? And if a quarterback that was beaten to a pulp in Cleveland is not immediately successful in a new offense with another team, it is obviously because he wasn't any good in the first place.

Yes, we do need to be cautious about falling into that fallacy of thinking that players need to be developed in order to perform at their best. :)
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Cute and well written, but ultimately fails to address, seriously or otherwise, the fact that the litany of failed Browns QBs does not include one guy who's gone on to success elsewhere.

We've drafted poorly and that's been the single biggest contributor to our QB woes IMO.
 
Greythan said:
We've drafted poorly and that's been the single biggest contributor to our QB woes IMO.
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Besides Aaron Rodgers, what QB have the Browns passed on that actually made a difference? serious question cuz I dunno
and... why we talkin QBs in Myles thread?
 
OzDawg said:
Besides Aaron Rodgers, what QB have the Browns passed on that actually made a difference? serious question cuz I dunno
and... why we talkin QBs in Myles thread?
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Irrelevant to my point with Cliff. Just saying I don't believe the reason all our guys have washed out is anything other than they weren't good QBs. (i.e., we selected guys who weren't good)
 
Nah. Fuck no. Fuck this. I am calling party foul on all ya'll motherfuckers.

Our first round pick actually looks good. Really good. We're not allowed to use his thread to talk about other players, especially not some ginger cunt on another team who has probably seen a Buffalo's vagina at least twice.

Nah. In our endless litany of shitty first round picks who sucked balls, Myles thus far seems to be the anti-Gilbert. The anti-Manziel. The complete opposite of Barkevious Mingo, meaning he's a pass rusher who hasn't been mistaken for a defensive back.

Don't make me start talking about my genitals. We're celebrating Mr. Garrett, who apparently again had a nice day.

Speaking of nice day, one of the Browns beat writers tweeted out that Browns practice was moved inside due to possible lighting; apparently Joe Thomas sprinted inside screaming, "Save yourselves! Save yourselves!"

I will never be able to muster the veracity to convey the strength of the love I feel for that man. Joe Thomas is love. Joe Thomas is life.
 
brownsdownunder said:
apparently Joe Thomas sprinted inside screaming, "Save yourselves! Save yourselves!"
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No he didn't. lol Seriously?

I'm right with you on Joe. I honestly hate the idea of him not playing LT for us at some point, but am comforted by the knowledge that he's going to end up in broadcasting someway, somehow. He's just too damn funny.
 
Greythan said:
No he didn't. lol Seriously?

I'm right with you on Joe. I honestly hate the idea of him not playing LT for us at some point, but am comforted by the knowledge that he's going to end up in broadcasting someway, somehow. He's just too damn funny.
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Haha seriously. Ben Axelrod was the guy who tweeted it out. @benaxelrod.

I don't even want to think about him not being our LT. I'll cry.
 
I also heard that after Joe yelled, Cam Erving tried to run and fell and bruised his lung? Can you confirm?
 
PhilKosar said:
I also heard that after Joe yelled, Cam Erving tried to run and fell and bruised his lung? Can you confirm?
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His injury isn't a big deal. I saw plenty of reports that he returned and did an amazing job holding the door. It was wide open. All the pass rushers got both inside and outside effortlessly.
 
Masters said:
Good luck with the idea that Wentz will be a top 10 QB this year. His regression as his rookies season went on projects otherwise. My bet is he is another Blake Bortles.
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I went to bat for Wentz a lot before the draft and during the season last year but he regressed and it was very plain to see. I don't know if he's the next Bortles or not but IMO his overall skill set is more refined than Bortles. Whether that makes a difference for him in the long run, I don't know.
 
Enigmatic Evil said:
I went to bat for Wentz a lot before the draft and during the season last year but he regressed and it was very plain to see. I don't know if he's the next Bortles or not but IMO his overall skill set is more refined than Bortles. Whether that makes a difference for him in the long run, I don't know.
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you do realize it was his rookie year most rookie QB's struggle a lot more then wentz. defenses start to get a book on you and they adjust to what you are doing. now it is time for wentz to adjust if he can and his stats improve its pretty safe to say he will be fine.

if he cant its not the end of the world either lots of QB's have over come sophomore slumps in the nfl.
 
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