The " Book It " thread!

[Greythan]

Again...masks do not prevent YOU from getting it...they prevent you from SPREADING it.

Huh?

For some reason this link won't embed in our forums, but this doctor on the front lines of this thing says otherwise. Just copy this into your browser: vimeo.com/399733860

 

[Danamal]

Countries With The Most cases

1- USA-201775
2-Italy-105792
3-Spain-102136
4-China-81554
5-Germany-67366
6-France-52827
7-Iran-44605
8-UK-25481
9-Switzerland-16605
10-Netherlands-13614

Top ten positive tests does not include death rates
4-1-20

Take notice how Russia isn’t reporting, it’s just this
kind of BS that’s going to keep this going for awhile.

In just the past twenty minutes the US now has 204168 cases
and 4504 deaths.

Global tallies
876714 cases
43436 death’s

 

[madmadworld]

Masks

Huh?

For some reason this link won't embed in our forums, but this doctor on the front lines of this thing says otherwise. Just copy this into your browser: vimeo.com/399733860

Dfan has been right in most of his posts in here but he's wrong on masks. there are studies done in the past to prove masks do help. they are not 100% but nothing is.

Dfan
in here you said Asians wear masks because of pollution. try this when you see a group of them.... at lets say a casino wearing masks, go over by them and cough and watch them scatter like pigeons. lol

Asians started wearing them the past 10 years since H1N1 over there. now in some Chinese cities they are worn for filtering pollution.

 

[madmadworld]

Life

MMW,where the hell have you been?
I was starting to worry about you when you hadn’t
posted in here since you were the first to be concerned
enough to start a thread and I dickishly busted your balls
about it,I apologize.

Accepted.
I get it. most of my life thanks to God I've been ahead of the curve.

I suggest we all try to not panic

If not now ....when is the time to panic ? lol

 

[madmadworld]

Martial law

Should've been imposed on these hot spots 2 weeks ago to stop the spread. if these are not the times to do so when ?
By not doing so we are drawing this out. stopping domestic flights etc

 

[Danamal]

If you want to get technical, we should have pulled the panic switch
in January AFTER China let the world know in December.
NowTrump is pimping a war with Iran for re election and I’m not
buying what he is selling.
He blew it, Big time.
Enough Americans are dying from this virus and if he didn’t have
the balls to serve (5 deferments) then he doesn’t get to send.
God bless our troops and all of this country afflicted by this virus.

 

[madmadworld]

No War

If you don't some what like Trump now you are hopeless.
this Wuhan flu is so far out of his lane & every other POTUS from the past.
look how well the Utopian EU has handled this. with their great healthcare system etc

No football in 2020 book it
The logistics are just too much to overcome. I want to be wrong.

 

[Dawg kennel]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wIsMi8ryw&feature=youtu.be#dialog

Please watch, it's an hour but please watch.

 

[Danamal]

Trump is wayyy to much DRAMA!
Gimme Sleepy Joe and some peace and quiet.
This “experiment” with the “outsider” has drowned
in his own swamp.
These Five o clock news conferences could put a crack addict asleep!
Clueless and in way over his head but he did get a lot of conservative
judges appointed so there’s that but fiscally conservative?, he blew that
up before this virus now he wants to take on Iran because nothing wins
a second term like starting a war!
In the middle of a pandemic, what an asshole.
“Your Fired”.

 

[madmadworld]

This

note Jan 14

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> (2019-nCoV) identified in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wuhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Wuhan</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/China?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#China</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Fnl5P877VG">pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG</a></p>— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) <a href="https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2020</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[brownsdownunder]

Wow. BDU, I am sorry but what I am getting from you is the 'making it political' side.

What part of a national response to a declared pandemic is not political? I didn't make it political. It just literally is political.

I don't like Trump any more than you do in all likelihood, but this isn't about Trump or him saving face.

I don't know why Trump fans always downplay their affinity for him. I'm assuming just trying to position yourself as being objective, which is essential because objectivity and Trump support just don't go together. At all.

This is about a nation that makes Australia look like a postage stamp, less than 7.5% of our population. That makes helping the unemployed a shit ton easier.

More people to help, but also more tax dollars coming in. We play with billions, you guys play with trillions. Stop trying to use population as an excuse like we somehow magically just have more dollars per citizen. Our nations, relative to populous, are comparatively prosperous.

We bumped ours up, but it is still so low the vast majority of people affected by this turned economy will lose their homes and more...and those individuals will take a long time to recover.

You know the two largest expenditures in the Australian federal budget?

1. Social security and welfare.
2. Health care.

We are the socialists that keep you awake at night. That is our disconnect. I am sorry to hear how many Americans are poised to fall homeless or enter your nation's horrifying level of poverty. Just know that when I'm crass about economic uncertainty, it's because my horrible socialist government won't actually allow something so awful to happen to it's citizens.

I cannot imagine ANYTHING resulting in a "vasty majority" of Australians being so adversely effected.

So yes, you were crass at the very least on disregarding their plight.

At least I didn't literally propose killing people.

As for 'killing grandma and grandpa', that is pure political tripe.

Actually it was a direct fucking quote. BF could not have been more explicit with his suggestion, which has been parroted all over your beloved Faux News.

Nobody is saying sacrifice them.

Which part of "Is protecting the lives of Grandpa and Grandma at all cost worth the cost to society at large? I say no" is taken out of context.

By all means, offer a different interpretation for me to laugh at.

What most are saying is that if THEY are the ones at highest risk, THEY are the ones that should take the additional precautions of isolating in place. Add in that they are also the least likely to take a financial hit (they have retirement and SS benefits for the most part), and it only makes sense.

And what do you know, I laughed.

You're way too fucking intelligent to be pretending that doesn't mean what we all know it means. There is no way to pretty that up or play coy. He's literally suggesting throwing the lambs to the slaughter for the sake of mild economic stability and you know it.

Me and my family are doing our part, but we are lucky. Both my wife and I 'can' work from home...but I am seeing neighbors losing their jobs, losing their businesses, and the psychological impact is bad...I would not be surprised to see a huge bump in suicides in the coming months/years due to the "CURE".

Just keep in mind this is why I'm pissed at your president. You won't be surprised by widespread homelessness and suicides, and you don't want the discussion to be political. Gross. I hope is balls still tastes like Stormy to at least make it palatable when you have to swallow your pride and admit how fucked up your lack of willingness to hold a politician to account in this situation is.

Keep in mind...you even said it...all these measures are simply to 'blunt the spike', and in all likelihood will not reduce the number infected...in fact is actually may INCREASE the likelihood of a second round. Read enough and you will find those willing to state it despite MSM hiding that little nugget by not reporting it.

Those are just words. It has nothing to do with science or common sense. Look at your cases and fatalities since I posted. Look at ours. Look at other nations which quickly took decisive action. The results speak for themselves.

Taking action against the pandemic may increase secondary prevalence but the mainstream media won't report it? You fool. I rescind the previous comment about you being too intelligent for something. That's woefully inaccurate and you fucking know it.

No, the heartless thing is to ignore the financial impact caused by blind reactionism.

Literally nobody is ignoring it. I made it clear that the economy is fucked either way, and now the most important thing is to get this over with as soon as possible so the rebuilding efforts can commence. Pretending everything is fine isn't helping. At all.

This disease will run it's course...it will take lives...and it will eventually be relegated to the 'flu-like' disease that it truly is.

But it isn't a flu-like disease. It is significantly more deadly. Not deadly enough to wipe out the planet, so sure it will pass, but stop trying to undermine what is happening here.

But the financial impacts will destroy far more lives than we will ever be able to quantify....including children.

Guess your wonderful economic manager got exposed. Afterall, our entire disagreement is that I vote fuck the economy, save the people. Your leader votes fuck the people, save the economy. How is that working out? Heh.

 

[brownsdownunder]

They are of the AOC ilk. They actually want people to be dependent on the government. Far from being a scourge to be overcome, they see this virus as an opportunity. To them it represents a path to an ideal. An example of this kind of thinking is the attempt by certain members of our congress who tried to get components of the green new deal added to the relief package recently passed into law. Hell, if they had their way, the relief would be replaced by the green new deal.

I feel like this is the moment you realised you were wrong. That the US should have acted sooner and more swiftly. That lives have been cost because your President valued his own economic numbers over saving as many Americans as possible. The moment his 15 day plan would become his 30 day plan, and with each passing day the measures required become far too drastic to ever be feasible. Buy the ticket, take the ride. And the ride is going to be fucking bumpy.

I'm not American. I won't shit myself in fear at being called a socialist, I won't be triggered by the concept of environmental protection. I won't cower at being accused of wanting government dependence.

Because ultimately, you know you just advocated people dying for an economy that is currently fucked because you've handcuffed yourself to a leader who is drowning in his own narcissistic incompetence.

And speaking of the virus being an opportunity, stop pretending like your dedication to the economy has nothing to do with economic prosperity being the feather in Trump's cap. You're scared because you know he inherited a good situation and we're about to find out if he's really the dollar genius he's claimed to be. I think you know he's not, and I think you're terrified those numbers will slip prior to the election and he'll have nothing of real value as an election pitch.

Trump's entire presidency has been one of being tolerated. Many have been willing to tolerate the worst of him if the best of him led to prosperity. If those numbers aren't prosperous, all he has to run on are childish names, attacks on media and pretending he's got everything under control. That scares you more than millions of your fellow Americans dying.

 

[madmadworld]

smh

I cannot imagine ANYTHING resulting in a "vasty majority" of Australians being so adversely effected.

You live in a world that you have literally no idea of what's going on around you. anyone on this planet who enjoys any amount of freedom should be thankful to the old US of A. and also root for us on a daily basis. We at only 5% of the worlds population rule this planet, not a easy feat. the country next in line will not be so kind. think about that.

 

[EastSideDawg]

Again...masks do not prevent YOU from getting it...they prevent you from SPREADING it.

just stop use your head for second. why do all the hospital workers use them because they help against getting the virus. the media was telling the public this because of a shortage of masks for healthcare workers.

masks are designed to stop you from inhaling something you dont want in your lungs. depending on the model of mask it varies on how good it filters and what it filters.

i have an N95 stash for when i am using chemicals or painting in the garage. in a week or 2 everyone is going to wish they had them when they leave the house.

 

[madmadworld]

Ohio Department of Health believes 100,000 Ohioans are carrying coronavirus

Cases expected to double every 6 days
Posted: 3:33 PM, Mar 12, 2020
"We know now, just the fact of community spread says that at least 1%, at the very least 1% of our population is carrying this virus in Ohio today," said Dr. Amy Acton, Director of ODH. "We have 11.7 million people."

According to the Governor Mike DeWine’s Office and the ODH, cases are expected to double every six days
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news...says-100-000-ohioans-are-carrying-coronavirus


Well Dr Amy.... you can leave your keys to your office on your desk. dismissed
if she had been right 2-4,000 deaths by today 3 weeks later. yesterdays count 65. 65 is sadly too many. but her going off like that at the time was just ..... I've been waiting for this day. on the cases side 800,000 by now according to their outlay. 2,547 is the real number.

 

[EastSideDawg]

the only way to stop this is an extreme lock down it would never happen in the US. give the public 2 days to get supplies for 14 days. get the national guard and police to patrol and keep people in their homes.

in 14 days undetected cases would show symptoms. quarantine those said people and its over

 

[DawgFan]

ESD, the masks in the hospital are not the masks on the streets.

Can a mask block a few droplets if someone coughs towards you? Yes...but they are not meant to hold those droplets, and you can actually breath them in through the mask. Add in that most don't wear them correctly, and people are always touching/adjusting them...and they are limited at best.

If you want to wear one, fine. Go for it. I work in healthcare and I know more physicians personally than you likely will meet in your life...and they say it is a waste in public. Sorry if I take their word for it when they walk out of the hospital without one every day.


BDU, nobody is afraid of Australia and it's system. Truth is the your population is far more spread out than in the USA...nearly the same land mass, 1/10th the population. It matters. The places that are blowing up are high density population. Even your big cities are more spaced out than the US cities.

As for the US, take a closer look. Nearly 50% of the infections are in NY and NJ, and OVER 50% of the deaths are in the same places. No other state has even 10k cases, although Michigan is trying. What needs to happen is we shut down that area...no flights in or out. But that would piss off AOC and her cohorts, so it won't happen.

 

[EastSideDawg]

ESD, the masks in the hospital are not the masks on the streets.

Can a mask block a few droplets if someone coughs towards you? Yes...but they are not meant to hold those droplets, and you can actually breath them in through the mask. Add in that most don't wear them correctly, and people are always touching/adjusting them...and they are limited at best.

If you want to wear one, fine. Go for it. I work in healthcare and I know more physicians personally than you likely will meet in your life...and they say it is a waste in public. Sorry if I take their word for it when they walk out of the hospital without one every day.


BDU, nobody is afraid of Australia and it's system. Truth is the your population is far more spread out than in the USA...nearly the same land mass, 1/10th the population. It matters. The places that are blowing up are high density population. Even your big cities are more spaced out than the US cities.

As for the US, take a closer look. Nearly 50% of the infections are in NY and NJ, and OVER 50% of the deaths are in the same places. No other state has even 10k cases, although Michigan is trying. What needs to happen is we shut down that area...no flights in or out. But that would piss off AOC and her cohorts, so it won't happen.

nice try there are surgical masks and n95 respirators. surgical masks are not as effective true but better than nothing. N95's are 99% effective in keeping pathogens out.

so a waste in the public.... i suppose your right unless you come into contact with an effected person. i have N95's and will use them its better than nothing.

with your thought process healthcare workers shouldn't have them because they dont work against stopping the virus.

 

[madmadworld]

It's Time to Face Facts, America: Masks Work

https://www.wired.com/story/its-time-to-face-facts-america-masks-work/

This piece has the links to many of the studies I've come across the past few weeks. thought it might have taken me much more time to find them.
you didn't say you knew smart doctors ....lol

 

[Brownsfan]

I don't know why Trump fans always downplay their affinity for him. I'm assuming just trying to position yourself as being objective, which is essential because objectivity and Trump support just don't go together. At all.

I really don't know the depth of Dawg's feelings about Trump specifically although I suspect he misspoke about probably not liking Trump any more than you. I get the impression that he generally supports at least a portion of the policies of the President although he finds him personally disagreeable (as contrasted with your apparent raw hate of the man and his policies).

If so, Dawg is probably like me is a number of ways. The difference is that he can't prove it, and I can. I have proof of my feelings in that regard. Although I don't claim to be the pure spirit that Dawg apparently is, I found Trump to be a particularly disagreeable personage before the election. If you don't believe me, I invite you to read some of the posts I wrote In the "Trump - A Threat to the Illuminati" thread. The following is the first post I wrote in that thread:

I like Rand Paul. He is the only republican I really like.

But the democrats are degenerates. I think Trump is a liar, a cheat and a Democrat staking horse for Hillary and that his conversion to the Republican party is insincere and his only purpose is to create disarray in the Republican party and deliver the presidency to Hillary.

I think the Republicans should throw him out of the party on the basis that he is a democrat who actually supports Hillary and plans to run as an independent in the November election.

https://www.barkinghard.com/forums/...-Threat-to-the-Illuminati?p=381197#post381197

I must say that I was surprise when he won and even more surprised when he became a pretty damn good president. I still don't care for him personally, but I support his policies. Sometimes, I wish he would speak more elegantly. I find myself constantly wordsmithing his comments. But in the end, I just accept that sometimes one has to take the bitter with the sweet.

Unlike me and, apparently, Dawg, there are people who sincerely love Trump unconditionally. I believe I can point to a couple of examples: Gabe and MMW. And there are a lot of people like them. He fills stadiums with people like Gabe and MMW.

Regardless, you should not question the sincerity of people like Dawg and me who like him for his policies.

EDIT, apparently I made a mistake and linked the wrong post. Not sure why adding 6 to the top of the page didn't work, but this one was #13 and expressed my political philosophy in general. Move up to post #6 and you will find the post I quoted.