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The #1 pick is in -- Myles Garrett

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nickers said:
What concerns Me is.. This isnt College where you play inferior talent every week.. this is the NFL where the lineman and everybody else is bigger, faster and stronger.... And knowing Garrett has a history with injury.. Don't think other teams wont gameplan to end his career sooner.. Count on it.. I hope the kid does well.. He's a Brown.. But I've seen this before with Kam Wimbley and Courtney Brown.. I'm sick of the Browns taking flyers on inury prone players.. it never works out.
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Just curious; how does selecting the almost universally acclaimed best player in the draft first overall, where he was almost universally projected to be picked constitute "taking a flyer"?
 
The swirling cloud of uncertainty hovering over Berea, Ohio, is no more.

The Browns announced Saturday that first-overall pick Myles Garrett has been diagnosed with a lateral foot sprain, and is expected to be ready for training camp. Garrett suffered the injury during minicamp on Wednesday, limping off the field with the rest of the team at the practice's conclusion. Garrett didn't practice on Thursday.

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported on Thursday that Garrett was "fine," which can now be assumed meant will be on track to participate in camp. The defensive end was spotted wearing a walking boot at Cleveland Hopkins Airport on Friday -- something that makes more sense as a recovery aid than a cause for concern.

If you need something to stress over to keep your motor going, feel free to connect this injury to an ankle injury suffered at Texas A&M. Rational thought will instead tell you to shelf any worry about his foot. Breathe easy, Northeast Ohio.
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NFL.com said exactly what I said so nobody is allowed to be mad at me anymore otherwise they have to be mad at NFL.com, which would make no damn sense, so we're all friends again. :)
 
Brownsfan said:
Who knows, maybe you are right. However, I think the chances are otherwise. I keep hearing that the kid played with a high ankle sprain last year, presumably taped to prevent other additional injury, but certainly not the rest that a high ankle sprain needs in order to heal. If what I hear is correct, this must be one tough kid to go through with that week after week and play well enough to be graded best at his position by PFF.

And injuries do heal. Apparently the high ankle sprain he had last year has healed and the current injury is a separate injury. Assuming this to be the case and based on what the doctors are saying, I anticipate that he will be ready to go in training camp.

If there are further complications, we can deal with those when they occur. I understand the concern, but I see no justification for conclusions and guarantees at this point. Why don't we just let it ride for now and see what happens.
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Well Let me tell you something...knee sprains and such (ankle,etc).. Those heal pretty quick when your young..when you start breaking things.. its a whole different ball game.. you are never 100% after a break.. I don't care who you are.. I just don't see him and Coco lasting very long...
 
And I still contend no crutches is a big deal. They tend to over-brace and treat in pro sports, fair enough, and the fact that they just slapped on an ortho shoe and said "head to the airport and take some R&R" is a really good sign.

His history of playing hurt is a good sign too.
 
jaydog said:
Rizzo on 850 AM just said he was told Garrett has a chronic foot problem.
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If this is true.. this doesn't bode well for anyone.... I mean Zydrunas went a few years before he could play full seasons and finally played well in a few of them... But , that does not always pan out.. I had a bad vibe on this pick since the day we made it.. But, Time will tell..
 
nickers said:
Well Let me tell you something...knee sprains and such (ankle,etc).. Those heal pretty quick when your young..when you start breaking things.. its a whole different ball game.. you are never 100% after a break.. I don't care who you are.. I just don't see him and Coco lasting very long...
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Not sure I agree with the premise about broken bones. In some cases, it depends on the break and the manner in which it heals, however:

Garrett and Coleman are young--Check
Neither current injury to Garrett and Coleman involve broken bones--Check

Rizzo is a tool.
 
If Garrett legitimately had a chronic foot problem, the Browns would have known about it pre-draft and likely would not have taken him #1 overall. Reporters don't find out about medical issues before the teams do in this day and age.
 
internalprime8 said:
If Garrett legitimately had a chronic foot problem, the Browns would have known about it pre-draft and likely would not have taken him #1 overall. Reporters don't find out about medical issues before the teams do in this day and age.
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The Browns are known to flirt with disaster...:laugh:
 
TheBestPlayersPlay said:
That's pretty much stating the obvious at this point.
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I left on vacation for a week following my post in this thread. (Too bad, would have been fun to have participated further. ;) )

That said, I would ask of this post, why? Based on what evidence?

From what I've read asserting he has any form of chronic problems in his feet is a fabrication. Our resident doc doesn't seem that alarmed. Sure, I get being worried that something may emerge later along this vein, but it isn't lost on me that those crying "chronic" seem to be the same that hated the pick long before his horrific feet issues became news.

I'm excited to see the kid play. As I said in my initial post, I don't understand how any Browns fan wouldn't be. If he ends up not living up to his draft status, he won't be the first. I just continue to find it odd that some fans have already damned the kid before he's even played a down for us.
 
Greythan said:
I left on vacation for a week following my post in this thread. (Too bad, would have been fun to have participated further. ;) )

That said, I would ask of this post, why? Based on what evidence?

From what I've read asserting he has any form of chronic problems in his feet is a fabrication. Our resident doc doesn't seem that alarmed. Sure, I get being worried that something may emerge later along this vein, but it isn't lost on me that those crying "chronic" seem to be the same that hated the pick long before his horrific feet issues became news.

I'm excited to see the kid play. As I said in my initial post, I don't understand how any Browns fan wouldn't be. If he ends up not living up to his draft status, he won't be the first. I just continue to find it odd that some fans have already damned the kid before he's even played a down for us.
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Since I've been in CO, I've learned that the word "chronic" has a totally different meaning than the context you've used it in ;)
 
Grey,

Agenda accusations aside ...I am really not sure what it takes for you to consider something chronic. Zydrunas ilgauskas was considered to have chronic foot problems and never had 3 seperate injuries to one foot in the span of one year.

I made this point a long time ago, and history has played this out repeatedly. Sometimes a person reaches the limits of human freakishness and the body begins to break down. The foot seems like it might be a weak point on a guy like Garrett. Dude hasn't been 100% in over a year. Same foot.

I am also excited to see the kid on the field of play. Hopefully he is on it more than off.
 
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The word chronic, in a general sense, is concerning. But so far, these seem to be a collection of separate injuries - more of a series of acute injuries vs the same (chronic) injury over and over.

At least as far as the info we have goes.

Also don't forget these guys have access to treatment us commoners don't have, especially off-label uses of modalities, like topical bone simulators for sprains, PRP injections for non-approved anatomic locations, etc.

Lastly, he played hurt all last year - something CoCo has yet to do, as far as we know. I do find reassurance in that fact. He's tough.

I think it was Jason Kipnis who pointed out baseball players are used to playing in a pain free manner, while football players play nearly every game in pain - nursing something to varying degrees. Garrett can usually push through, his personal history would tell us.

Some level of concern? Fair enough. Bust-labeling or alarm-ism? Meh, I don't see that at all. Just my 2 cents and all.

To Gabe's point, I'd go the other way. These dings for football players often happen coming off the teenage years, then stabilize as the fully mature musculoskeletal system develops in finality.

We all hope this is what's happening with Garrett (oh, btw, same for DeValve).
 
True on that one, but I'm pretty sure he's on soft tissue injury #3 since coming to the Browns, and there were some injuries, I want to say, at Baylor which also caused him to miss time.

Garrett played all year with a high-ankle sprain including his bowl game when the trendy thing to do was sit out and prepare for the draft.
 
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