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The #1 pick is in -- Myles Garrett

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OconRecon said:
True on that one, but I'm pretty sure he's on soft tissue injury #3 since coming to the Browns, and there were some injuries, I want to say, at Baylor which also caused him to miss time.

Garrett played all year with a high-ankle sprain including his bowl game when the trendy thing to do was sit out and prepare for the draft.
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I want talented guys with a strong work ethic on my team. He looks like he might be one of those guys.
 
OconRecon said:
Lastly, he played hurt all last year.
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This is the one that burns in to my brain. I often see people mention that Garrett has been injured for a year, that he was injured all last year. I'm sat here like, "No shit. He got injured, and then played injured. That's not going to facilitate the healing process, it is going to keep him injured."

I'm not a doctor, but looking at the internet suggests the recovery for a high ankle sprain is four-to-six weeks of rest and recovery. Myles missed one week, then came back for two weeks against top teams, then sat two weeks, then finished out the season. So for half of the recommended rest and recovery, he was absolutely not resting or recovering.

Personally, I have to accept that trade off. I can't imagine expecting an injured athlete to perform but then holding it against him when that performance means his injury never gets the opportunity to heal and lingers throughout the season.

That's an understandable process, and I too applaud his toughness. I still remember the LSU game. Injured, shouldn't be playing anyway, begs his coaches to let him play - compromise, just play on 3rd down. Game comes down to the wire? Myles is like, "Fuck this, I'm not missing a down."

Do I accept extended injury for a guy who shows that level of dedication? Fuck yes. Especially when he'd be called soft/weak/pussy if he happily took to the bench for recovery. Myles had no time for that shit. He had games to win, offensive tackles to terrorize and OC's to keep up at night.

Thus far, the Browns say he's fine, and maintained that from the moment this new injury occurred. His current injury seems to be making a mountain out of a mole hill. This is especially true when Myles is a prime candidate for being protected via precaution. He came in to this team with expectations that he was going to be an elite pass rusher, and the coaches haven't been shy about saying he has met their expectations and looks phenomenal.

That doesn't sound like a guy you be flippant with when it comes to even a minor injury. That sounds like a guy you do everything in your power to assure his number can be called come opening week vs the Steelers. That's more important than some damn drills.

This is the boring time of the year so minor injuries are going to captivate and often push people to consider that all our players are busts. But injuries are so minor at this time of year that everything looks worthy of panic.

I find it humorous how much discussion we've had regarding Coleman's injury - Kenny Britt missed the same amount of time, only returning for the final few practices, and I couldn't tell you what his injury was without looking it up. Welcome to OTA's. Scratched your balls three times in the last hour? We're going to hold you out as a precaution. That chafe could become something else, man.

This is especially true when Hue lived a nightmare, the likes of which I have never seen, on the injury front last year. He's going to be double cautious to try and avoid that happening all over again. Shit, Joel Bitonio is back, but we've already been told he is unlikely to start off when training camp rolls around - just precaution, he's fine. Sounds familiar. Expect Garrett to be sidelined opening week of camp, too.

None of these guys have a Bridgewater situation going on. We've got some strains, pulls and general soreness. If this were the regular season, most of these injuries wouldn't even be considered serious enough to make the injury list.
 
I understand the sunshine and all ....but man to live in the world you guys do.

To say you aren't concerned about drafting a guy with our #1 pick who is still injured, and has been for over a year, multiple times, to the same extremity ...just makes no logical sense to me.

Seems to me his foot breaks down under the weight and power of the beast on top of it.

I hope to God I am wrong, I assure you.
 
TheBestPlayersPlay said:
I understand the sunshine and all ....but man to live in the world you guys do.
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I guess its all perspective Gabe. I look at a kid with a high ankle sprain last year and a mild foot strain this year. No doctors seem alarmed, Ocon (a doctor) isn't alarmed, so.... I'm not alarmed. (Not being a doctor and all. ;) )

I also look at all the other extreme, freak athletes in the NFL that put a similarly extreme level of pressure on the human body and think Garrett's just one small increment further than most while they all are a quantum leap from you and I. I don't see any empirical reason to believe that Garrett's freakish measurable have broken some cosmic limit on the human body. I think its much more likely the entire NFL is made up of that prototype. We've all seen them in RL from time to time.

So, I actually find your perspective the one worth naming (pessimistic) and mine to be the rational default position.
 
And I'll say again, I'm really reassured that this guy plays hurt.
And I'll also say again, some level of concern is warranted, but to label him as the next Z is premature. The Z scenario is the fear, but we're far from that doorstep, imho.

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Addendum, my iPad spell checker seems to be telling me something. I come here a lot. :lol:


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OconRecon said:
and there were some injuries, I want to say, at Baylor which also caused him to miss time.
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I'm pretty sure Corey Coleman didn't miss any regular season games at Baylor. He didn't play in the Bowl game against North Carolina because he had surgery for a sports hernia he got in the OU game. By that time Baylor had a defensive back playing QB and they ran for like 800 yards against NC. Coleman had the surgery so he'd be ready for the 2016 NFL season.
 
I thought he missed a month with a hammy in college along the way. I could be mistaken.
That'd be a hammy + a sports hernia in college, then hammy repeatedly with the Browns, then the broken hand, and the fall on the ball thing.

Doesn't matter, we're both pulling for him to have a hell of a year. His game 2 with McCown revealed he absolutely has every tool in the box.

It's been said for this year to be a success, Coleman is the most important part (sans QB) on O, and Haden for the D. I tend to agree.
 
Nate Ulrich, the ABJ guy, did an interview with Bruce Smith recently and it was pretty insightful. Bruce feels he and Myles have a kindred spirit type of connection.

Both drafted in the first round, the first overall pick
Both have first round DE expectations
Both had foot/ankle problems early in their careers (late college, early pro)
Both were drafted to teams coming off horrific seasons (Bills 2-14, Browns 1-15)

Bruce had a pretty mundane first season, and the critics were out strong, and then he amassed 15 sacks in year two and went on to become the NFL's sack leader when it was all said and done.

Said he's learned some things through these experiences, and how he could have handled things differently. Also, how to move, foot plant, and leverage in a way that minimizes injury.

Also says the NBA alums are better at helping along current/young players than the NFL alums are, and he wants to change that. With Myles having so many parallels to his own life path, he feels this is this chance to pay it forward.

However so far, they've really only exchanged #'s.

I hope Garrett takes him up on this offer.
 
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Boot (and overall musculature) still intact....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="fr" dir="ltr">Myles Garrett! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/browns?src=hash">#browns</a> <a href="https://t.co/BH7M0RC06x">pic.twitter.com/BH7M0RC06x</a></p>— Tom Smolko (@spyderdawg) <a href="https://twitter.com/spyderdawg/status/880835060571795456">June 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/MylesLGarrett">@MylesLGarrett</a> shows healthy foot in freakish lifting video <a href="https://t.co/WEVhL2eikk">https://t.co/WEVhL2eikk</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a></p>— Josh Edwards (@JEdwar247) <a href="https://twitter.com/JEdwar247/status/882968410870743040">July 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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That video really makes me admire the human body. That's an insane quantity of weight, so much so it makes even Garrett's legs look like twigs, yet he's able to push that fucker for three reps. That's incredible. The strength of the human legs is woefully underrated.

That white single picture is insane, too. Garrett and Njoku are freaks. Their bodies are something else.

Happy to see him in that condition. He looks in great shape, and clearly his ankle wasn't a big deal if that's what he's doing yet camp is still like three weeks away.
 
Color me stunned he's doing THAT much already. Bodes very well for the first full squad practice 3 weeks from today.
 
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