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The #1 pick is in -- Myles Garrett

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TheBestPlayersPlay said:
Don't hate anybody. Just think when a DE is rated above a franchise QB prospect and is already being called "generational", he is clearly beyond all reason overrated.

Hope he proves to be the best D player in this draft. Hope he proves to be "generational". Hope he carries this team on his shoulders. Then you all can say you were right, and I will happily agree.
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But you see, Gabe, I have no interest in saying I was right. Hell, I expect to be right.

Why should I bother to mention the expected?
 
brownsdownunder said:
Ah, so a "Franchise QB" influenced your comments about Garrett. Interesting.

Just for the record, I never accused anyone of having an ulterior motive that odd. I was just referring to BF56 and the opposite of the "sunshine pumpers." Thinking of calling them the "Darkness drillers."

Which is the second most awesome name for a BH subgroup. Does anyone remember the name of the "Bully club" that AO talked about? It was something brilliant. Mega awesome super bully club, or something. He even gave us official titles, proper nomenclature in a hierarchy and errythang.

I agree that Garrett is overrated. He's not done shit yet. But the first overall pick, and first round picks in general, are supposed to get people excited about the potential for impact. You overrate them, and anoint them, when you want your team to be good.

Fight the good fight and bring him down a notch, I support you in spite of being on the opposite side. I'll keep predicting a 1,000 yard season for Njoku and ROTY honours for Garrett.

FWIW - I don't think any of us give a shit about saying we were right, nor have interesting in saying we were if we are. We just want the Browns to be good and have good players.
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I think "darkness drillers" has a nice sound. But I am not sure that calling someone a darkness driller wouldn't land one in Hell. Think we should chance it? :)
 
brownsdownunder said:
Ah, so a "Franchise QB" influenced your comments about Garrett. Interesting.
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Weaksauce. Out of the entire comment, you cherry picked that. I lol'd. Obvious statement is obvious. #wemissedTrubiskysadface

Brownsfan said:
Hell, I expect to be right.
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It happens so little, I am impressed with your continued high expectations! *cough* Weeden *cough* :hugegrin:


I don't know too many members who don't pat themselves on the back when they get something right ...which is well earned.
 
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TheBestPlayersPlay said:
It happens so little, I am impressed with your continued high expectations! *cough* Weeden *cough*
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Well, I guess it is time for me to again defend one of my favorite college players who, like a number of other Browns quarterbacks in the past 18 years, might have had a chance to become a better than average WCO quarterback under different circumstances.

Also, like a number of other quarterbacks who have come out of the colleges in recent years, Brandon was an Air Raid quarterback before arriving in Cleveland. And like a number of other college quarterbacks with his background, he could have used some time to learn a complex NFL offense before being thrown to the wolves. A year with a clipboard watching Colt McCoy direct the offense would have given him time to learn the offense, much as I have suggested that our current rookie quarterback should spend some time as a backup before taking on a starting role.

Brandon's college experience hardly prepared him to take on a starting role in a WCO in the NFL in his rookie year. However, partly due to the perceived situation in Cleveland and partly because of his age (28 when drafted due to an earlier baseball career), Holmgren was intent upon forcing him into the starting lineup immediately. The results at the beginning of the year were not pretty. However, after the first five games,things began to improve. After losing the first five straight, we won the next five of eight games with Brandon under center. And of the three games that we lost in that series, two might have been victories with only a slight change of fortune.

In the Indianapolis game, Brandon threw a deep pass to Josh Gordon that would have given us a lead had it been caught, but as Josh was reaching for the ball, the sun suddenly shown bright through a crack in the roof and Josh dropped the ball.

And in the Dallas game, Brandon completed a touchdown pass to Benjamin Watson with a minute and ten seconds remaining in the game that gave us a three point lead, but some late game heroics by Tony Romo and a field goal by Dan Bailey tied it and we lost in overtime.

Considering the apparent improvement during those eight games, one might have expected further improvement the following year in the same system. However, by then, all things Browns had taken a radical turn. The team had been sold and at the end of the year, the people who had drafted Brandon were replaced with people who wanted their own guys. Accordingly, Brandon went from Holmgren's favored son to Banner's red-headed step-child.

Unfortunately, this was a circumstance all too familiar in Cleveland and, like others before him, it essentially ended Brandon's chance for success in Cleveland.

We will never know how things would have turned out if the team had not been sold and Holmgren & Heckert had been permitted to continue their efforts to build the team and develop Brandon as their quarterback, but it seems likely that both the team and Brandon would have shown further improvement in subsequent seasons. Considering the number of players that we sent to the Pro-Bowl the following year (2013), and considering the likely improvement that Brandon would have made with a deeper understanding of the offense, both seem likely.

What we do know is that Banner brought in a new coaching staff with a new system and in that system, Brandon regressed. He actually won the starting job at the start of the season, but he was injured in the second game and later suffered a second concussion. At the end of his second year in Cleveland--after Banner and Lombardi were fired--the new GM, Ray Farmer, released him. He is currently a backup with the Houston Texans. Considering that he is now 33 year old (34 in October) and in the last year of his current contract, this will likely be his final season. After he retires, he will likely become a college coach. He has indicated an interest in teaching the Air Raid offense at the college level.
 
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brownsdownunder said:
personally think BF56 will wear it with pride ahaha.
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Having T Shirts printed as we speak! And for the record there's not a darn thing thing wrong with drilling a little "darkness" every now and again! :sex2:

I will wear the designation with pride. Thank you one and all! Now how many of you rainbow boys will wear shirts with big flaming rainbows on them? :D
 
I think our shirts should feature a large picture of Sasha Grey in the process of deepthroating a rainbow. In very large letters underneath, "Sunshine pumpers. You always win if you don't believe in losing."

I'd wear it daily.
 
Brownsfan1956 said:
Having T Shirts printed as we speak! And for the record there's not a darn thing thing wrong with drilling a little "darkness" every now and again!

I will wear the designation with pride. Thank you one and all! Now how many of you rainbow boys will wear shirts with big flaming rainbows on them?
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brownsdownunder said:
I think our shirts should feature a large picture of Sasha Grey in the process of deepthroating a rainbow. In very large letters underneath, "Sunshine pumpers. You always win if you don't believe in losing."

I'd wear it daily.
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It is so nice when we approach this degree of niceness. :D
 
Kid was dinged off and on throughout college. Hope he's not "one of those," but let's be real: So far he is.
 
This is going to be a LONG training camp is people freak out every time someone heads to the sideline. It is going to happen again and again. Just like it does every year. Ya'll need some Ritalin or something. Xanax will help.

I am impressed, however. Minicamp, no serious injuries, but half the team is bust picks because they're injury prone.
 
Already missed time during rookie camp, hurt in 2nd day of OTA, history of injury. It's not unreasonable forfolks to be concerned
 
Ken Carmen saying this morning he "just got stepped on" and "it's not like he went down hard". Pointing out he seemed to be walking it off.

I hope so, but they'll still shut him down until training camp. This is all no big deal as long as he's back in July. Today's practice is short and earlier in the day - so he did the majority of it all.

Wonder if this will tweak the final 53 at all.

All too early to tell and no need yet to panic. Myles has shown he can play injured, we have plenty of time for him to heal up, and we'll find out a little more today.

Although, I bet we get a "he's dinged, but he'll be fine, so we'll have our medical staff work on him and hopefully he'll be ready come training camp".
 
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