Browns The 2025 hunt for a QB

[NDneighbor]

"This roster with a top 16 QB is in the playoffs every year" from Jack Duffin's X post shown above.

This is why parting with Myles (if it does come to that) is not a reason to "just blow it up and start over".
Myles is exactly one player.
The cupboard is not bare. The QB room needs reworked.
Another high pick needs to be used on one and Jameis needs some coaching. Or another vet QB needs to be signed.
Berry is going to keep swinging because giving up is not an option.

 

[OconRecon]

We've done the "quantity draft" thing. It didn't work. I can't think of an NFL example whereby it did, other than when a team hit on the QB.

Take the best QB at 2, and then another in the 4th or 5th if there's one you like. Maybe the Indiana or Louisville QB. Or McCord.

 

[OconRecon]

"This roster with a top 16 QB is in the playoffs every year" from Jack Duffin's X post shown above.

This is why parting with Myles (if it does come to that) is not a reason to "just blow it up and start over".
Myles is exactly one player.
The cupboard is not bare. The QB room needs reworked.
Another high pick needs to be used on one and Jameis needs some coaching. Or another vet QB needs to be signed.
Berry is going to keep swinging because giving up is not an option.

Plus, the cap situation with the trading of Myles, at least as we all understand it, is simply untenable. Punting until 2028/2029 doesn't sound good, and has no more guarantee to work than any other plan.

I don't want to return to the leaders in draft capital and cap space, while living in the AFCN basement.

 

[nickers]

My biggest issue is Berry and Depo are pickin the groceries still.... I have 0 faith we will have a good draft..

 

[Masters]

With the rookie pay scale the reality is you can draft a QB at the top.of the draft, miss, and swing again the next year at the top of the draft. If this was the old days where a rookie QB gets a contract like a proven starter then I'd understand hesitation to take one.

 

[The_QCT]

Scream it from the motherf*cking mountain tops.

 

[OconRecon]

I'd be fine with this Jones as the vet.

 

[jaydog]

...wait for it...

 

[jaydog]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've been here long enough to know.

 

[MKO3090]

Jones

Derek Carr or Daniel Jones are probably my preferred options at bridge QB.

Carr is an easy upgrade to what we've had, but is much more expensive and would require a trade.

Jones is simply asking Stefanski to do what KOC did for Darnold in Minnesota.

 

[MKO3090]

Error

 

[OconRecon]

When the #Browns picked top 10 & selected a QB later (with my memory of that selection)

'17 Kizer-Pick 52 - ND guy, so I was pumped
'16 Kessler-Pick 93 - “he’s akrit”, said Hue
'14 Manziel-Pick 22 - wasn’t Gilbert, so
'12 Weeden-Pick 22 - beat Luck H2H
'10 McCoy-Pick 85 - all time Texan
'07 Quinn-Pick 22 - ND guy, I was in again
'05 Frye-Pick 67 - local!
'04 McCown-Pick 106 - lovable!
'00 Wynn-Pick 183 - woof

A 22-96 Combined Record
#Dawgpound

Tried to buy-in to all of them.

Let’s take a top QB this time. I wish we had Couch or TB’s version of Baker right now, who as you all know, are the only two QB’s we’ve ever selected in the top-10.

 

[next2nothing]

'17 Kizer-Pick 52 - ND guy, so I was pumped
'16 Kessler-Pick 93 - “he’s akrit”, said Hue
'14 Manziel-Pick 22 - wasn’t Gilbert, so
'12 Weeden-Pick 22 - outfield Luck H2H
'10 McCoy-Pick 85 - all time Texan
'07 Quinn-Pick 22 - ND guy, I was in again
'05 Frye-Pick 67 - local!
'04 McCown-Pick 106 - lovable!
'00 Wynn-Pick 183 - woof

A 22-96 Combined Record
#Dawgpound

Tried to buy-in to all of them.

Man... that list is downright depressing.

How could you Ocon? Especially on Valentine's Day?!?!?

 

[The_QCT]

When the #Browns picked top 10 & selected a QB later (with my memory of that selection)

'17 Kizer-Pick 52 - ND guy, so I was pumped
'16 Kessler-Pick 93 - “he’s akrit”, said Hue
'14 Manziel-Pick 22 - wasn’t Gilbert, so
'12 Weeden-Pick 22 - beat Luck H2H
'10 McCoy-Pick 85 - all time Texan
'07 Quinn-Pick 22 - ND guy, I was in again
'05 Frye-Pick 67 - local!
'04 McCown-Pick 106 - lovable!
'00 Wynn-Pick 183 - woof

A 22-96 Combined Record
#Dawgpound

Tried to buy-in to all of them.

Let’s take a top QB this time. I wish we had Couch or TB’s version of Baker right now, who as you all know, are the only two QB’s we’ve ever selected in the top-10.

QB's the Browns passed on in those drafts. Not all draft had great options. Biggest names are Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger & Drew Brees.

2017: (#1 Pick)
- Patrick Mahommes
- Deshaun Watson (the good Watson)
- Josh Allen

2016: (Traded out of #2 Pick):
- Carson Wentz
- Dak Prescott

2014: (Traded out of #4 Pick):
- Teddy Bridgewater
- Derek Carr
- Jimmy Garoppolo

2012 (Traded out of #4 pick):
- Ryan Tannehill
- Russell Wilson
- Nick Foles
- Kirk Cousins

2010 (#7 Pick):
- Absolute shit QB draft. Sam Bradford went #1...every other QB was dog shit.

2007 (#3 Pick):
- Absolute shit QB draft. Jamarcus Russell went #1 and was a bust. Every other QB was dog shit.

2005 (#3 Pick):
- Aaron Rodgers
- Ryan Fitzpatrick

2004 (#6 Pick):
- Ben Roethlisberger
- Matt Schaub

2000 (#3 Pick):
- Drew Brees

 

[nickers]

there were some hits and misses to the bone

 

[MKO3090]

Josh Allen

Allen was '18, but point stands.

 

[MKO3090]

On that list, the realistic Franchise QBs we missed were Ben Roethlisburger, Aaron Rodgers, and, ironically, Deshaun Watson.

Should have taken Roethlisburger over Kellen Winslow Jr., Rodgers over Braylon Edwards, and Watson over Trading Back. Everyone else is either not a real miss or is playing the hindsight game.

No one was taking Mahomes over Myles. Not crying about missing on any of the other QBs drafted in the 1st Round on that list (Wentz, Bridgewater, Tannehill).

 

[Martin Eden]

Young, Stud Watson was right there in our hands and we said no thanks. Incredible. I think they were in shock from the Chiefs move to get Mahomes. I still think we thought we had Mahomes at 12.

 

[The_QCT]

On that list, the realistic Franchise QBs we missed were Ben Roethlisburger, Aaron Rodgers, and, ironically, Deshaun Watson.

Should have taken Roethlisburger over Kellen Winslow Jr., Rodgers over Braylon Edwards, and Watson over Trading Back. Everyone else is either not a real miss or is playing the hindsight game.

No one was taking Mahomes over Myles. Not crying about missing on any of the other QBs drafted in the 1st Round on that list (Wentz, Bridgewater, Tannehill).

Realistic Franchise QB's we missed were Mahommes, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Watson, Brees, Wilson & Prescott.

There isn't a soul in the world who would take Garrett over Mahommes in a redraft. He was also the 1st QB taken in the draft. Doesn't matter what kind of mental gymnastics you wan to do today...we missed on him.

Guys like Cousins & Schaub were/are very good QB's who would have provided much more stability than we have had over the years.

 

[MKO3090]

Realistic Franchise QB's we missed were Mahommes, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Watson, Brees, Wilson & Prescott.

There isn't a soul in the world who would take Garrett over Mahommes in a redraft. He was also the 1st QB taken in the draft. Doesn't matter what kind of mental gymnastics you wan to do today...we missed on him.

Guys like Cousins & Schaub were/are very good QB's who would have provided much more stability than we have had over the years.

I mean, any QB taken after the 1st Round was missed by pretty much the entire league. Prescott, for instance, was passed over 4 times by some teams. Seems a little ridiculous to criticize specifically the Browns for that. We should have drafted Brady too...

Redrafts are fun exercises, but really aren't reality and do nothing to improve the process. The process to select Myles was fine. He was deemed generational, is generational, and will be in the HOF.

Mahomes was much more of a risk, why no one in 2017 would have made a different decision and why we haven't been criticized for it. Good process, HOF selection, kudos to the Chiefs for finding the best latter on. Reminds me of Hakeem Olajuwon and Michael Jordan.

We should've taken Watson at 12 though. That would have made it a franchise-altering draft. Oh well... I guess we got Watson later.