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Danamal said:
DF,
I agree with you but it would be nice that IF you have
to return to work you should be tested by your employer
before you get to a desk, shop floor, etc etc.
You could even make it fifty fifty employee employer paid
for.
The new saliva test takes three days so plan ahead before
reopening, Id agree with that.


Kennel,stop with the old people BS and keep in mind
Just because you think your immortal doesn’t make it
so
https://apple.news/Aj7q3YfpfSZinS0i30YRWrw
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Thanks for reminding me to follow up on this person.

Well, the Navy has not released his name yet, pending family notification. I'm told he's a chief petty officer in his 40s
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/8338...-in-guam-of-coronavirus-related-complications
 
Young People

Dawg kennel said:
My point of the CDC post was someone said covid19 is killing young people.
Numbers clearly state 25 years old and younger
Covid19 has taken less than 10
Phenomenon has taken nearly 200
In the same timeframes

Wanna complain about something taking young lives look elsewhere.
This is taking the very elderly whom are quite brutally honest are on deaths doorsteps anyhow.
And yes both my parents are alive in their 80s so it's a concern but 97% of the world shouldn't have to stop.
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When you are my age people 40 and under are "young people" just saying
 
Danamal said:
DF,
I agree with you but it would be nice that IF you have
to return to work you should be tested by your employer
before you get to a desk, shop floor, etc etc.
You could even make it fifty fifty employee employer paid
for.
The new saliva test takes three days so plan ahead before
reopening, Id agree with that.
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Fully agree although the cost for the test may be an obstacle particularly for low wage personnel considering that with an abundance of caution periodic tests would seem to be indicated.

The problem is that we cannot avoid risks. They are all around us. The question is what risks we are willing to accept? Some aspects of social distancing may need to be enforced after reopening. And regardless of risks we are willing to accept in any particular locality, the local health department must be competent with the tools needed to rush in and contain any outbreak that surfaces (testing, contact tracing and quarantine/treat). Once we reopen, we do not want to have to go back to mitigation.
 
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I understand Cliff,
Really at this point I’m just spitballing for what we can do
to make people feel safer in there work environment and
not bringing a virus into our families.
Today we have reached the mile mark of having tested
one percent of our population!
POTUS wants to set a hard deadline on reopening the
country on May 1st and I appreciate and understand wanting to not
dig ourselves deeper into a financial tailspin but we really
should be extremely careful in how we approach this.

When it comes to the aircraft carrier and then reporting one death
you have to remember our military is the largest “deep state” part
of our nation and I’m sure is not the only boat floating that
has tested positive, if I’m not mistaken a few weeks back the army
reported cases on bases in the states.
So this is not the virus or eradication of the elderly but even if it was
is it any less tragic?
 
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Ya can't test everyone before going back to work lmfao. It'd be years because you're gonna test everyone daily under that ass9ine statement.

Wash your fuckin hands, don't go around people if you're danamal
Stay off lamestream media unless you're danamal
Otherwise we want our country BACK.
 
Yeah,
as our population grows and more and more people
travel from god knows where to the US and there
are know vaccines available it’s going to happen
more and more,sadly.
Maybe the next one causes two fatalities for those
under twenty five...
Right Kennel?
 
Danamal said:
Yeah,
as our population grows and more and more people
travel from god knows where to the US and there
are know vaccines available it’s going to happen
more and more,sadly.
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We don't have a vaccine, but we have developed a testing capability which is increasing daily at the rate of a million tests per week for the Abbott 5-15 minute test with the rate of testing capability increasing with additional testing methods including the new saliva test.

To date, we have performed 3.3 million tests, but most of those tests have been concentrated in New York and other major hot spots. But now, the testing capability must be extended to area that have not had a significant problem with the virus but are potentially at least a local possible hot spot, example being South Dakota.

Eighty of South Dakota's 180 new COVID-19 cases are employees of the meat-processing company, bringing the total to 518 Smithfield Foods employees who have tested positive. There are also now 126 total cases of non-employees that became infected when they came into contact with a Smithfield employee, according to the South Dakota Department of Health...

Gov. Kristi Noem said the state is "aggressively testing" Smithfield employees and people who have come into contact with them, as well as getting people into isolation as soon as possible.
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This is a trial run for the system of testing, contract tracing and isolation of infected persons, that will be needed in each state when they reopen. Hopefully, the South Dakota Department of Health in conjunction with the CDC will prove that they have the ability to contain the virus and provide an example for other states.
 
madmadworld said:
Mitigation/Lock down

For me this seems to be a one off. can't see this happening again in the next year or so.

Do you think this could happen again ?
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I hope not.
Truthfully i hope American never lets it happen again.
Let this be a lesson to those who were so willing to hand over there freedom to politicians with absolutely no say, because they were afraid....

It’s a lot harder to get back your freedom once you give it up.
 
This particular virus might be stopped at some point
Next spring it could very well be something else.
If we’re to have learned anything from this is to
prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Right now as I see it the POTUS wants a hard
start on May 1st and to me that’s putting the cart
before the horse.
That Smithfield S.Dakota company supplies my local
grocer, kinda not happy about that as well as the
governor’s response, it’s irresponsible and politically
motivated rather than a measured response to what
is happening across the country, this virus doesn’t have
a political agenda, test and contain if we’re lucky we might
Be rid of this just in time for hurricane season!
 
madmadworld said:
Wasn't the goal as I recall. the goal "they" spoke about from the start was not to overwhelm the Hospitals. guess that's why "they" seem happy.
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One can have multiple goals. One goal of containment might be to eradicate the disease entirely. This might not be considered realistic, but it can nevertheless be a goal. Another goal of containment would be to avoid overwhelming the hospitals. Other laudable objectives or goals might be saving lives and allowing the country to get back to work.

Local health departments will have to be relied upon to contain the virus much as we rely on local police departments to contain crime and the criminal element. To do this, local health departments must have the tools they need. Three weeks ago, they clearly did not have the tools to do the job. Specifically, they were unable to test in real time. Obtaining the results of a test four days later made contact tracing practically impossible because, until they had the test results, they had no idea who else to test to determine who else needed to be isolated from the general public. Now it appears that with rapid testing, adequate contact tracing is possible and they should therefore be able to quickly isolate the individuals infected with the disease and thus avoid the necessity of mitigation.
 
Danamal said:
This particular virus might be stopped at some point
Next spring it could very well be something else.
If we’re to have learned anything from this is to
prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Right now as I see it the POTUS wants a hard
start on May 1st and to me that’s putting the cart
before the horse.
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I think you are mischaracterizing the intention of the President. I believe his intention is to follow the advice of his medical experts regarding when and where the restrictions can safely be lifted.

That Smithfield S.Dakota company supplies my local
grocer, kinda not happy about that as well as the
governor’s response, it’s irresponsible and politically
motivated rather than a measured response to what
is happening across the country, this virus doesn’t have
a political agenda, test and contain if we’re lucky we might
Be rid of this just in time for hurricane season!
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You're confusing me. As I understand the governor's response, it is to aggressively test to find and isolate all persons infected with the disease and to re-open the plant only when it is safe to do so. Not sure how that is irresponsible, but perhaps you can explain.

Or did you mean that the governor should have implemented stay at home and shut the plant down to avoid the problem with the virus spreading within the plant in the first place.

However, at the same time you seem unhappy with the plant being shut down because it supplies your grocery store with pork products.
 
First off,
My true concern about the Smithfield plant is self
motivated since I have there products in my home
and after over six hundred employees tested positive
I’m considering throwing them away.

As far as Trump is concerned I’ve taken it easy on him
and let’s be fair he does what he wants and doesn’t take
advice very well and if your not of the same opinion as
him you get fired.
I whole heartily believe that getting the country up sooner
rather than later should be considered but just saying May
1st that’s it we’re opening I don’t trust,we have only tested
One percent of our population and NY’s as well as NJ’s death
rates aren’t dropping,so imo May 1 is hopeful not factual.
 
Danamal said:
First off,
My true concern about the Smithfield plant is self
motivated since I have there products in my home
and after over six hundred employees tested positive
I’m considering throwing them away.
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I can certainly understand the concern. However, I have been given to understand that if the meat is cooked for a sustained period of time at an appropriate temperature, any bacteria or virus (including the coronavirus) is killed.

So, can cooking foods kill any potential coronavirus contamination in the food? Short answer: yes. As with many viruses, a sustained temperature of 158°F (70°C) or higher should kill the coronavirus. Most standard cooking methods, like sautéing over medium heat, will get you to this temperature, and even a slow-cooker on a low-heat setting brings food to 209°F by the time it's finished cooking. The FDA has not heard of any reported cases of coronavirus from food, but emphasizes that it's still important to thoroughly wash your hands often and safely handle foods to prevent cross-contamination (between things like raw meat and uncooked veggies), foodborne illness and the coronavirus.
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http://www.eatingwell.com/article/7742783/will-heat-from-cooking-kill-coronavirus/

Probably the big thing is washing your hands thoroughly after handling the raw meat. Presumably this should occur while the meat is cooking.

As far as Trump is concerned I’ve taken it easy on him
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You could have fooled me. :)

and let’s be fair he does what he wants and doesn’t take
advice very well and if your not of the same opinion as
him you get fired.
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Yes, it is interesting that he should think that, as President, he should be the one setting policy for the administration.

I whole heartily believe that getting the country up sooner
rather than later should be considered but just saying May
1st that’s it we’re opening I don’t trust,we have only tested
One percent of our population and NY’s as well as NJ’s death
rates aren’t dropping,so imo May 1 is hopeful not factual.
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You seen not to be up to date on the current recommendations on the reopening by the Trump Administration.
 
madmadworld said:
That whole testing thing seems like Whac-A-Mole approach. just data collection.
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If you are correct, it is useless in combating disease. However, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx seem to think it can be a useful tool--along with contact tracing and isolation--in containing an infectious virus such as the coronavirus. I suppose we shall see how effective it turns out to be because it appears to be the only significant tool we have at present. We don't have a vaccine and we don't yet have a proven effective therapeutic either.

Nevertheless, it seems we must start reopening soon to avoid an economic catastrophe. It had best work.

or this
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I must say that that video has the look of being staged.
 
Some People

With a system of testing and tracking positives. Some People will not be tested for fear of being tracked.

Too many people have not Stayed home as of March 16th start. if they had the only new cases by now (or the past 10 days) would be from people Shopping at the few open stores. Some People don't self isolate or shopping is very dangerous. take your pick.
 
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