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Not public enough for you ?

It appears to me that the lighting was too good for it to be done in secret. I feel safe in saying that the people in the video knew they were being filmed.

But this is what it would look like.

This second one was outside so the lighting is less of an issue and also appears less professionally done. Thus it would obviously be more difficult to establish as a fake. But it is not very convincing either.

I personally think anyone who is infected with a contagious virus like the coronavirus who refuses to enter voluntary quarantine or seeks to evade said quarantine after entering quarantine deserves to be jailed after they are free of the disease.
 
With a system of testing and tracking positives. Some People will not be tested for fear of being tracked.

Too many people have not Stayed home as of March 16th start. if they had the only new cases by now (or the past 10 days) would be from people Shopping at the few open stores. Some People don't self isolate or shopping is very dangerous. take your pick.

Why do you think that people will have a choice of whether to be tested or not? The decision on who will be tested in a contact trace situation are the state and local health departments and will either have or should have the force of state law.

I agree that the number of new cases during the past month since the guidelines were issued on March 16 have been disappointing. Despite denials, I am sure that the numbers are disappointing to the members of the task force also. It could have been worse, of course, but not nearly as good as it could have been.

However, we are entering into a new phase in which the opening of states for business will depend largely on how well people in each state or locality adhere to the new guidelines for subsequent two week periods as well as how effectively the state and local health departments perform. Hopefully, this will provide a new incentive for people to act responsibly.
 
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Why do you think that people will have a choice of whether to be tested or not? The decision on who will be tested in a contact trace situation are the state and local health departments and will either have or should have the force of state law.
First you shock me with your Love/trust/force of Gov. Second some Gov bureaucrat coming at me with a needle/q tip ... better be better at hand to hand than I. as Pat Travers said Boom Boom (Out Go the Lights)

We gave the Gov this chance it 's been a shit show. 500,000 more cases at least, thousands of deaths, 20 million lost jobs.
never more right than Now
 
First you shock me with your Love/trust/force of Gov. Second some Gov bureaucrat coming at me with a needle/q tip ... better be better at hand to hand than I. as Pat Travers said Boom Boom (Out Go the Lights)

We gave the Gov this chance it 's been a shit show. 500,000 more cases at least, thousands of deaths, 20 million lost jobs.
never more right than Now

Enjoyed the Reagan quote. It contains great truth.

However, it reminds me that not so long ago, you were proposing Martial Law to combat the coronavirus. And now you are resisting a simple test to determine if you have a virus? It seems to me that a mere requirement that persons who have been in contact with a person having the virus be required by law to undergo a test to determine whether or not they also have the virus in an effort to curtail the spread of said virus is a reasonable compromise by citizens for the common good.

What constitutional protection are you giving up when you submit to a test required by the government to promote the public good? There must be thousands of laws on the books that are more invasive of one's personal liberties. This is hardly comparable to the suspension of ordinary law and constitutional protections that you have proposed in the recent past.
 
Martial Law

Enjoyed the Reagan quote. It contains great truth.

However, it reminds me that not so long ago, you were proposing Martial Law to combat the coronavirus. And now you are resisting a simple test to determine if you have a virus? It seems to me that a mere requirement that persons who have been in contact with a person having the virus be required by law to undergo a test to determine whether or not they also have the virus in an effort to curtail the spread of said virus is a reasonable compromise by citizens for the common good.

What constitutional protection are you giving up when you submit to a test required by the government to promote the public good? There must be thousands of laws on the books that are more invasive of one's personal liberties. This is hardly comparable to the suspension of ordinary law and constitutional protections that you have proposed in the recent past.
Martial Law would have worked. nearly equal for all of us.

A spit chasing bureaucrat, dragging around Black people taped for CNN just perfect.

What a picture for Re-Election that would be. :yo:
 
How a Premier U.S. Drug Company Became a Virus ‘Super Spreader’

BOSTON — On the first Monday in March, Michel Vounatsos, chief executive of the drug company Biogen, appeared in good spirits. The company’s new Alzheimer’s drug was showing promise after years of setbacks. Revenues had never been higher.

Onstage at an elite health care conference in Boston, Mr. Vounatsos touted the drug’s “remarkable journey.” Asked if the coronavirus that was ravaging China would disrupt supply chains and upend the company’s big plans, Mr. Vounatsos said no.

“So far, so good,” he said.

But even as he spoke, the virus was already silently spreading among Biogen’s senior executives, who did not know they had been infected days earlier at the company’s annual leadership meeting.

Biogen employees, most feeling healthy, boarded planes full of passengers. They drove home to their families. And they carried the virus to at least six states, the District of Columbia and three countries, outstripping the ability of local public health officials to trace the spread.

The Biogen meeting was one of the earliest examples in the United States of what epidemiologists call “superspreading events” of Covid-19, where a small gathering of people leads to a huge number of infections. Unlike the most infamous clusters of cases stemming from a nursing home outside Seattle or a 40th birthday party in Connecticut, the Biogen cluster happened at a meeting of top health care professionals whose job it was to fight disease, not spread it.

“The smartest people in health care and drug development — and they were completely oblivious to the biggest thing that was about to shatter their world,” said John Carroll, editor of Endpoints News, which covers the biotech industry.

The official count of those sickened — 99, including employees and their contacts, according to the Massachusetts Department of Public Health — includes only those who live in that state. The true number across the United States is certainly higher. The first two cases in Indiana were Biogen executives. So was the first known case in Tennessee, and six of the earliest cases in North Carolina.

All the people outside Massachusetts whom The New York Times has connected to the cluster have recovered. But it’s impossible to say for certain whether anyone became gravely ill or died from the spread out of the conference.

In hindsight, many people have criticized Biogen’s decision to continue with its leadership meeting in late February, which was attended by vice presidents from European countries already hit by the virus. Others in the industry fault Biogen for being too tight-lipped about the outbreak.

At least two of the company’s senior executives have tested positive. Citing privacy concerns, the company has declined to name them, even as other chief executives in biotech have disclosed their positive tests.

Responding to questions from The Times, Mr. Vounatsos refused to say even whether he had been tested for Covid-19.

“He is completely focused on employee safety, supplying medicines to patients, and leading the company,” said a Biogen spokesman, David Caouette. “This takes precedence over his personal health status.”

The company has defended its handling of the leadership meeting and its aftermath, saying it made the best decisions it could with the information available at the time.

“For a company whose mission is to save lives, it was very difficult to see our colleagues and community directly affected by this disease,” Mr. Vounatsos said in his first public comments about what happened at Biogen. “We would never have knowingly put anyone at risk.”

Founded in 1978 and based near Boston, Biogen helped pioneer the biotechnology industry, specializing in multiple sclerosis drugs. The company is best known now for its work on a promising treatment for Alzheimer’s.

Its experimental drug was seen as a potential holy grail — until the company announced about a year ago that the drug appeared to be a failure in large-scale trials. Patients were devastated. The company’s stock nose-dived.

But last fall, in a stunning reversal, Biogen announced that further analysis of the data suggested the drug actually worked at higher doses. Mr. Vounatsos said the company planned to seek approval from the Food and Drug Administration “as soon as possible.” The stock soared; the company pulled in record annual revenues of about $14.4 billion.

By the time of Biogen’s annual leadership meeting on Feb. 26 and 27, spirits were high. So was the pressure to deliver.

Although some other companies canceled international meetings around that time, Biogen never discussed doing so. The outbreak was raging in China but had not yet been declared a worldwide pandemic. As of Feb. 21, the Friday before the meeting, the United States had only 30 confirmed cases, according to data compiled by The Times. Biogen executives in Germany, Switzerland and Italy — where there were just 20 known cases — packed their bags.

On the first night, about 175 executives gathered for a buffet dinner and cocktails at the Marriott Long Wharf overlooking Boston Harbor. Colleagues who hadn’t seen each other in a year shook hands and vied for face time with bosses. Europeans gave customary kisses on both cheeks.

“It’s unfortunately the perfect breeding ground for a virus,” said one former vice president, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of his ties to Biogen.

Two days later, the senior executives returned to their offices. One drove to a manufacturing center in North Carolina. Others flew back to Europe.

Peter Bergethon, the head of digital and quantitative medicine at Biogen, went home to his wife, an infectious-disease doctor.

A Biogen vice president in the Alzheimer’s franchise and her husband attended a party the following Saturday night at a friend’s home in Princeton, N.J., with about 45 other people.

They celebrated a holiday in the Greek Orthodox calendar, the end of the Carnival season, with special sweets and traditional dances that involved holding hands in a circle. Although celebrations in Greece had been canceled, the party in New Jersey went forward, since White House officials had just pronounced the virus in the United States to be under control.

That night, Allana Taranto, a photographer who covered the leadership meeting for Biogen, celebrated her 42nd birthday with her boyfriend and another couple.

Over that weekend, though, some people in the company had already started feeling sick.

Jie Li, a 37-year-old biostatistician who worked on the Alzheimer’s drug team, had chills, a cough and aches. She was too junior to attend the company’s leadership conference, but her boss went, and showed up at the office afterward.

On March 2, the following Monday, the company’s chief medical officer sent an email informing everyone who attended the leadership meeting that some people had fallen ill and telling them to contact a health care provider if they felt sick.

“We moved quickly,” Mr. Caouette said.

Still, that same day, the company’s four top executives attended a huge health care conference hosted by the investment firm Cowen. At another Marriott in Boston, they held meetings in hotel rooms with potential investors. Another attendee who met some of the same investors said he heard that members of the Biogen team looked sick.

At the conference, concern about the coronavirus mounted as word spread that some companies, including Vertex and Seattle Genetics, had canceled their appearances. By Tuesday, the second day of the conference, many attendees had stopped shaking hands.

Later, investors were informed that two of the four Biogen executives at the conference tested positive for the virus.

In defense of his company’s decision to attend the event, Mr. Vounatsos said, “When we learned a number of our colleagues were ill, we did not know the cause was Covid-19.”

That Tuesday, Biogen contacted the Massachusetts Department of Public Health and reported that about 50 employees in the Boston area and overseas had flulike symptoms. Biogen employees began showing up at the emergency room of Massachusetts General Hospital, demanding tests. They were told their cases didn’t satisfy the testing criteria at the time, since none had traveled to a hot spot or had known exposure to someone who had tested positive for Covid-19.

The next day, confirmation of the worst arrived. Two Biogen executives who had returned home to Germany and Switzerland, where tests were more widely available, had tested positive.

On Thursday, the company held a call with its staff and shared the news. All office-based employees were directed to work from home.

Yet on that same day, a Biogen executive visited the Washington office of Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, or PhRMA, the industry’s top lobbying group. Soon after, that executive tested positive, prompting the group to close its headquarters for deep cleaning.

The next few weeks turned into a blur of Biogen employees leaving casseroles on one another’s doorsteps and trading news about who had fallen ill.

Dr. Bergethon infected his wife, the infectious-disease specialist. While their symptoms were manageable, the scariest part was the uncertainty, Dr. Bergethon recalled recently at a virtual event hosted by the University of Rochester.

“We didn’t know we were going to recover,” he said. “We didn’t know what was coming next.”

Ms. Taranto, the photographer who had been at Biogen’s leadership conference, unknowingly gave the illness to a friend at her birthday dinner. She had felt healthy at the time.

Of the four dozen people who attended the party in New Jersey, at least 15 later tested positive, according to public health authorities.

A Biogen executive, Chris Baumgartner, became the first Covid case in Tennessee. “I was patient zero,” he wrote on Facebook. He added: “Imagine having to confront a virus so feared, it now has the entire world on the brink of mass hysteria.”

The earliest cases in Indiana and North Carolina were tied to the company. One Biogen employee even carried the virus back to China.

After falling ill with flu-like symptoms, Ms. Li called an ambulance and was given a coronavirus test, according to a public health official in Belmont, the upscale Boston suburb where she lived. But before she received the results, she booked a flight to Beijing, boarding a plane with her husband and son, leaving behind their house, a white BMW and other trappings of the life they had built in the United States over 15 years.

“They must have been desperate,” said Dr. William Q. Meeker, a statistics professor at Iowa State University who had worked closely with Ms. Li’s husband, Yili Hong, also a statistician. The couple worried most about their 2-year-old, who would be far from relatives if they both fell ill, according to a former graduate school classmate.

Ms. Li took medicine to conceal her symptoms, and revealed her health condition to flight attendants on board the flight, Air China and Beijing disease control officials said last month.

After she landed in China, authorities placed her under investigation for “obstructing the prevention of infectious diseases,” a crime that reportedly carries a sentence of up to seven years in prison.

In Beijing, the couple suffered from high fevers and lung infections and were hospitalized, Dr. Meeker said. He recently received an email from Mr. Hong that said they were recuperating, but that their lives “will be different in the future.”

It appears that all of Biogen’s employees who fell ill have recovered. Aside from Ms. Li, who was fired, all have returned to work, Mr. Caouette said.

Biogen has since joined the fight against the virus. The company donated $10 million to expand access to testing and to provide emergency food and protective gear for hospital workers.

Company officials said its struggle against the pandemic is just beginning: Biogen, for instance, has also entered into talks with Vir Technology about manufacturing a potential treatment for Covid-19, another pharmaceutical holy grail that could make untold amounts of money.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/coronavirus-biogen-boston-superspreader.html
 
I’m hoping Mad was calling for a stricter stay at home order with no essential workers?
Not an actual martial law which I believe would have been real ugly.

As it
Turns out the numbers and models were so far off not
Even “social distancing “ can be claimed as the reason.

Fucked our whole country up for the flu.

Never again. Now we’ve got to fight for
The freedoms we GAVE away.
 
Anyone else find it weird that #BillGates - an unelected official, a computer guy with no medical degree, seems to be the world’s leading health expert on the coronavirus, telling everyone what we need to do & when its safe to go back to normal?

Its a little odd, that the same guy who led Event 201 just a few weeks before the first outbreak in China, where they had an exercise preparing & planning for a pandemic outbreak & can you guess what virus they chose for this "hypothetical" exercise? If you guessed the coronavirus you must be a psychic!

This is the same guy that's going to profit the most from this virus with his vaccines he's pushing on everyone. I can guarantee you right now they will make this a seasonal virus just like the flu, so they can profit off the vaccines every year.

In the past week, he's been making the media rounds on CNN & other shows saying we can all gather again once we've all been vaccinated! In another interview, he said that you will need to provide a vaccination certificate to work & travel.

He also has a company called ID 2020 which will track everyone through microchips the size of a grain of rice that they inject into you with a needle. It will track everywhere you go & everything you do, but please don't take my word for it, google ID 2020. This is not the future, they have already done it in some countries & even some workplaces.

No conflict of interest here, lol If people can't see through the obvious bullshit then we're all screwed!

Might I also add that this diabolical man is also THE largest donor of the World Health Organization? Think about that folks. THERE. IS. AN. AGENDA!!!

#ID2020 #pleasewaketfup #billgates #lockdown #economiccollapse #elitesagenda
#coronavirus #covid19 #event201 #agenda21
I copied from a friend, but just doing my part to expose. That's is all.
 
Too many deaths

And you think tanks on main street would be a great vote getter?
wtf need of Tanks...LOL

I’m hoping Mad was calling for a stricter stay at home order with no essential workers?
With essential workers. getting the food out etc

No real Martial law. it's the only way to get enough power to gain control. the hardest part would be assuring that everyone received food. but very doable, with proper planing in this age. along with a Pausing of the economy. (google search Pausing of the economy) it was proposed over a month ago. again not easy but doable. fact is we are now in a sort of pause now.
surely a few pages to a Real Plan Book. 6-8 weeks of this would have knocked this virus down to near nothing. certainly more recovered cases than active. unlike now 71,000 recovered vs 653,000 active.

So many people are still moving about that in family infections are still happening. this should have been mostly over in the first 2 weeks. and would have under Martial law.

A better way to have gone than this plan, would have been a all out effort to protect the 50 year olds and older. we knew early this group was in the most danger. heard the other day 5,600 have died in elder homes. just another part of this sorry ass plan.

Not an actual martial law which I believe would have been real ugly.
Explained well people would have been ok with it. even now under this soft ass plan most are ok with staying home. what we've seen the past week in Michigan etc is mostly .... a case of dumb governor(s).
 
Another week later

Coronavirus

March 2, 2020
93 cases of the coronavirus illness in the U.S.
six deaths
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-s-new-cases-reported-in-florida-and-new-york

March 9, 2020
Cases of Coronavirus Cross 500, and Deaths Rise to 22
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/08/world/coronavirus-news.html


Coronavirus updates
March 16, 2020
The White House on Monday issued new guidelines designed to slow the rapid
spread of coronavirus, asking nearly every American to stay home from work or
school for the next fifteen days.
In almost every aspect of daily life, America is closed for business.
4,500 people have tested positive
88 have died.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-updates-cases-fears-deaths-us-latest-2020-03-16/


March 23, 2020
43,600 cases across the U.S. and more than 550 deaths
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-latest-news-deaths-2020-03-23/

March 24, 2020
US sees deadliest day with 160 deaths
There are at least 52,976 cases of the novel coronavirus in the United States
and 704 people have died, according to CNN Health’s tally
of US cases that are detected and tested in the US through public health systems.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-24-20-intl-hnk/index.html


March 30,
The US now has the most confirmed cases worldwide,
with more than 160,000 confirmed cases and nearly 3,000 deaths.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-30-20-intl-hnk/index.html


Monday, April 6
368,000 confirmed cases
death toll topped 10,000
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-pandemic-covid-19-latest-news-2020-04-06/

April 6: COVID-19 Virus May Damage Heart
From Kaiser Health News:
“As more data comes in from China and Italy, as well as Washington state and
New York, more cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can
infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5
patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs
of respiratory distress." Some cardiac specialists think that the virus could damage
the heart in multiple ways.
https://www.apta.org/PTinMotion/News/2020/04/06/CoronavirusUpdateApril6/

April 13
580,000 cases
23,423 deaths
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-04-13-coronavirus-news-n1182376

April 13
580,000 cases
23,423 deaths
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-04-13-coronavirus-news-n1182376


April 20
Cases: 792,938
Deaths: 42,518
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
 
National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza: Implementation Plan

My fellow Americans,

On November 1, 2005, I announced the National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza, a comprehensive approach to addressing the threat of pandemic influenza. Our Strategy outlines how we are preparing for, and how we will detect and respond to, a potential pandemic.

Since then, our Nation has taken a series of historic steps to address the pandemic threat. In December, the Congress appropriated $3.8 billion. The International Partnership for Avian and Pandemic Influenza, which we launched at the United Nations in September 2005,

GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE
May 2006
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/pdf/pandemic-influenza-implementation.pdf
233 pages

PANDEMIC FLU: APARTMENT OWNER PREPARATIONS
July 20, 2006
Federal officials have indicated that in the event of a pandemic flu, they will not establish national public health and safety guidelines to manage and treat the outbreak. Instead, local authorities will make these decisions based on individual community needs. The federal government has also acknowledged that it will not be in a position to offer hands-on, operational assistance in the event a pandemic flu strikes. As a result, federal officials have urged private sector firms to develop, and to routinely review, individualized disaster and business continuity plans.
The best emergency plans include regular internal and outside review.
https://www.nmhc.org/globalassets/k...nsurance-and-risk-management/pandemic-flu.pdf
 

That might make sense if it wasn’t for New York and New Jersey. Those two states account for almost half the cases and half the deaths in the United States. As of April 20, New York has had 252,094 cases and 18, 929 deaths. Per capita, this comes to 12,850 cases per million and 965 deaths per million. Projecting that to the United States as a whole, we would have 2,955,000 cases and 221,950 deaths. And these are not final numbers. Those totals may almost double before they are finalized.

Of course, the conditions in much of New York do not approximate those of many states. Most states do not have people living on top of people nor people using mass transit systems for transportation to and from work. Driving to work in a car is not quite the same as people breathing on each other on subways. In addition, while my personal experience may be limited, I think work conditions in manufacturing plants in most cases could be adapted to the need for social distancing.

In the plant where I worked prior to my retirement, reasonable social distancing would not be difficult to practice. Office people worked either in offices or individual cubicles. Most of the shop personnel ran individual machines. Perhaps the area that would be most difficult to implement social distancing would be the assembly department that required people working together to assemble some equipment, but that also could be mitigated with masks where necessary. Perhaps standardized masks could be supplied and mandated throughout the plant and offices as standard protective gear.

More difficult, of course, will be implementation of social distancing in bars, restaurants, movie theaters etc.

I know one thing. The recent report from the IHME modelers who apparently recommends that a number of rural and western states wait until end of June to reopen is absurd.

https://www.leafly.com/news/health/new-covid-19-model-predicts-when-your-state-could-reopen

First, the idea that Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, North Dakota and South Dakota are all further from reopening than New York and New Jersey is rich. Second, it won’t happen. Third, this is the best example of why federalism is a good idea that I have heard.
 
Hey bf ya can't argue the numbers printed vs dates.
Open this mother's fuckin country back up.
I just spoke with my 85 yo father in fact he agrees, those who are in the group like him need extra precautions but most should return to duty immediately.
 
Hey bf ya can't argue the numbers printed vs dates.
Open this mother's fuckin country back up.
I just spoke with my 85 yo father in fact he agrees, those who are in the group like him need extra precautions but most should return to duty immediately.

Well, DK, I disagree with you that the coronavirus is a hoax. It is real. Covid-19 is an infectious disease which is transmitted from person to person. In other words, if I do not come in contact with a person that has it, I will not contract the disease.

However, it is highly contagious and if I happen to approach or come within a few feet of a person who has it and who coughs (or even just breaths) in my direction, I can also become infected with the disease. People who contract it become sick and some who contract it will die. The reason that most people who catch the disease will survive and get well is that the body develops antibodies to fight the infection and kill it. In other words, when a person is infected with the disease, there is a mortal battle between the disease and the human body. One or the other dies.

However, I fully agree that with appropriate precautions to reduce the risk, the country (except for a few remaining hot spots) needs to reopen and quickly. Some states will lag behind that really should not. I recently read an article from Real Clear Politics entitled:

"If Half the Country's Deaths Were in Montana, Would New York Shut Down?"

It ends with the following:

In his latest column, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman inadvertently revealed how New York-centric his view of America is. Friedman, like virtually all his colleagues at The New York Times, opposes opening up any state in America at this time. He writes: "Every person will be playing Russian roulette every minute of every day: Do I get on this crowded bus to go to work or not? What if I get on the subway and the person next to me is not wearing gloves and a mask?"

Only a New Yorker would write those two sentences. In the 40 years I have lived in the second-largest city in America, I have never ridden on the subway or any other intraurban train or bus. In fact, it is common for New Yorkers to look at Los Angeles with disdain for our "car culture." Like the vast majority of Americans everywhere outside of New York City, in Los Angeles, most of us get to work, visit family and friends, and go to social and cultural events by car -- currently the life-saving way to travel -- not by bus or subway, the New Yorker way of getting around.

But Friedman is a New Yorker, and because his fellow New Yorkers walk past one another on crowded streets and travel in crammed buses and subway cars, South Dakotans should be denied the ability to make a living.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a..._montana_would_new_york_shut_down_142995.html
 
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Hi folks,I refuse to talk about politics and won’t mention it here.
This thread went off the rails about the covid-19 virus and I just
have to put a few things out there, hell I even read DK’s link and
all I got from it was,
“Old people die,it’s what they do.”
I’m fine with that to the extent that as you age you grow to accept
that life does end in death for all of us,to dismiss it as an old persons
disease Is seriously misguided.
Reopening all phases of what we accept as normal since it’s only affecting
NY and Jersey does not mean that it’s time for the all clear sign nationwide.
For instance S.Dakota doesn’t compare to NY and others, However if
Smithfield reopens there plant after 900 positive test for covid-19 they ship
nationwide from butchering to the grocers how many others handle or cough
on the product before you reach for it on the grocery stores?
If you believe that the 900 positives are the only infections in S. Dakota
then your perception of this is misguided.
This argument can be made all across the country who supply the country
from produce to meat.
Inspite of the numbers in other states this is a highly contagious virus that
can spring up everywhere and the numbers continue to rise since we have
only tested 2 percent of our population so testing isn’t even close to the
real numbers of those who are infectious.
There is no cure or vaccination readily available and scientists are talking
about this fall being more deadly than the current numbers because it’s
going to be the flu season with corona in the mix as well.

So go ahead reopen the country but I’m not going to listen to anyone
other than science and those in the healthcare industry and once are
food supply is completely tainted then what do we do?
Go out to dinner and go to the movies?
I don’t think so and many young people are dying from this disease
not just old people because it’s what they do.
Enjoy your liberty and go ahead open up the country with no clue
how we get a vaccine and add in Influenza this fall.
Go for it, all I know is that we WILL have a second wave that will
be worse than what we are currently experiencing.
Until we all accept that this virus is for real than grab a sign and take
to the streets and tell people there being irrational and you want
liberty...
Stay safe and healthy.
 
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